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looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chippers

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Duane(Pa)

08-17-2005 19:34:20

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If you have one or have used one, let me know what you think of it. Is hydraulic feed a must, or a pricey option? Thanks, Duane

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Sam#3

08-18-2005 20:32:40

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to Duane(Pa), 08-17-2005 19:34:20

If you live long enough, and pay attention, you'll find everything you do is a compromise.
An example: You have a lot of time and energy and not much money you do the work with the money you have. If you have the bucks spend it and push the buttons. Look at your situation and your alternatives and pick your best compromise. That's what all the replies said: "This is what worked for me." Good luck with your decision.
Sam

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Butch(OH)

08-18-2005 05:57:40

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to Duane(Pa), 08-17-2005 19:34:20

I must assume that you have a large amount of chipping to do or you would not be considering one? Best advise I can give is dont go too small or self feed on account of price. A too small chipper is a genuine PITA and will sit in the shed instead of being used. If you do not belive please go rent a small one and give it a try before purchase. Go only with hydraulic driven roll feed. And make sure the feed size suits what you want to feed it. Most advertised feed sizes like say 6" means a nice straight 6" limb. A crooked 6" with a couple large "Y" branches wont go through them, more cutting and trimming in general. Problem is a nice 8" hydraulic feed chipper is a lot of bucks, PTO or tow behind. I rented a 4" and a 6" before deciding what I wanted. I them watched Ebay for a year before buying a used Morbark that needed some work. Only way I could afford a size that would work for me. The brands mentioned allready are OK along with Hudson out of NY state. The China 6" on Ebay for around $1500 are junk. Good luck As for the post about burning, come here and set your brush piles on fire, see how long it takes for the big red trucks to show up and put it out then write you a fine, wish I was in the wild west, but am not.

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Robert in W. Mi.

08-19-2005 17:38:45

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to Butch(OH), 08-18-2005 05:57:40

I didn't read all the answers below, but i have owned a 6" hydraulic in feed PTO chipper, and i agree with Butch.

Rent one if you only need one a few times a year, and rent a BIG one or it will work you to death!

Robert

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Ludwig

08-18-2005 20:00:52

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to Butch(OH), 08-18-2005 05:57:40

"wish I was in the wild west, but am not."
You'd rather your idiot neighbor set the whole state on fire because he has no idea how to have a controlled burn?
Apologies to your neighbor if he's not actually an idiot but you get the idea. The average person isn't any smarter than a squirrel and will light his own bed on fire if left to his own devices. It amazes me that we've gotten this far...
Don't believe me, go over to big-boys.com and watch some the stupid video clips. My favorite is the kid who has his friends shoot a roman candle at him. He gets burned but the big question is, "What did he think was going to happen?"

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havvey

08-18-2005 05:18:03

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to Duane(Pa), 08-17-2005 19:34:20

valby or patu are two very good makes hydralic feed is a must. you did not say if it was for yard use or commercial.

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paul

08-17-2005 23:43:43

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to Duane(Pa), 08-17-2005 19:34:20

I never really understood the point of a chipper?

Burning is so much less power, work, & better for the environment - I don't get the enthusiasm for chippers these days.

Can someone help me see the point?

--->Paul

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JOE(TX)

08-18-2005 05:01:47

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to paul, 08-17-2005 23:43:43

I think the EPA would disagree about burning would be better for the environment as do I. Natural decomposition adds nurients back to the soil.

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paul

08-18-2005 06:08:36

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to JOE(TX), 08-18-2005 05:01:47

What they forget about - that natural decomposition is pretty much the exact same process as burning in slow motion - bugs & bacteria give off the same or more unfriendly 'gases' as the burning does. Sum net total 'emmisions' is often worse for decay vs burning.

Give it some thought.....

--->Paul

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Ludwig

08-18-2005 19:57:22

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to paul, 08-18-2005 06:08:36

Paul,
Wheres the research to back it up? Why is putting that carbon into the air better than putting it into the ground where it can be used? You obviously don't have any asthematics around that particulate matter shot up into the air is some hard on them. I've never heard of anybody being overcome by "compost fume inhalation" but you sure here about people dying of smoke inhalation.
The carbon sent up my the chipper doesn't amount to a hill of beans by comparison to the fire from a burn of any useful size.
Besides those chips could be useful mulch, whats the smoke good for?

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Joe(TX)

08-18-2005 13:44:30

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to paul, 08-18-2005 06:08:36

Not really. Burning puts a large volumn of carbon particles in the air as well as cabon monoxide. No methane. Natural decomposition mostly emits methane gas and over alonger period of time. The carbon stays on the ground. Pretty much the opposite types of emissions.

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Joe(TX)

08-18-2005 13:41:30

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to paul, 08-18-2005 06:08:36

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Bill WI

08-18-2005 08:43:37

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to paul, 08-18-2005 06:08:36

Can you give some referance material on emmisions on composting versis burning? Thanks.

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sawtooth

08-18-2005 04:59:04

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to paul, 08-17-2005 23:43:43

Nowadays the EPA is picky about "open fires". In a city in this area an ice storm brought down a lot of branches. But even people in the country were told they weren't allowed to burn their piles of brush. Lately that city (Lima, Ohio) has had a law suit against a contractor that had agreed to grind and haul brush piles saying the company isn't abiding by the agreement. (still working on the brush many months later) Anyhow, in our county most brush gets hauled to a county recycling center where they use a huge grinder- you can dump brush and pick up mulch for free. I burn mine when I have small amounts.

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Leroy

08-18-2005 05:44:28

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to sawtooth, 08-18-2005 04:59:04

Just where are you located? I am 15 mile south of Lima and in that storm I was without power for 6 days. Haven't yet been able to clean up the damages and power lines to outbuildings are still down. The City of Wapakoneta ans St. Marys had chipped their brush and now Hoge Lumber of New Knoxville in their boiler for their electric generator is burning those chips as with all the offals from their sawmill and mot only are producing all the power for their plant and most of the power for the town. And knowing the Lima goverment I would side with the contractor as the Lima goverment has been working for years to destroy the city and the mayor was in a capacity of with goverment funds and inmates from the state prission revamping substandard housing and he put that program in bankruptcy and working to do the same for the city

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Leroy

08-18-2005 05:50:07

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to Leroy, 08-18-2005 05:44:28

I was going to add in that storm there were 3 deaths caused by it and my 80 year old uncle was one of them, generator setting in garage running with 16' overhead door on south side open, wind from south forced fuems thru door to house and overcame him, found them in time to save aunt that was in anouther part of house with alzhimers and unable to take care of herself

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paul

08-18-2005 06:12:52

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to Leroy, 08-18-2005 05:50:07

Sorry to hear of your loss.

We had 75+ mph straight line winds go through 2 weeks ago. Got several dozen trees down.

Letting wood decay gives off as much or more of the same 'bad' gasses from the bugs & bacteria.

Add to that the diesel fuel used to run the chipper.

Grinding the wood is far worse for the environment than an open flame.

Not that EPA types care about that, it's all about control.

--->Paul

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Leroy

08-18-2005 14:05:28

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to paul, 08-18-2005 06:12:52

You don't begin to understand the maginitue of the ice storm. It covered an area roughly 150 mile north-south and 100 mile east-west or Toledo, Oh. to Dayton. Oh, and the Indiana line to Columbus, Oh. with from damage to total devestation covering approx. 15,000 sq mile area with heaviest damage to Logan Co. (Bellefontain, would not let anybody that did not live in town or relief workers in town for 3 weeks after), Allen Co. Lima 45,000, greater Lima area 75,000 people) and Auglaize Co. where I live were hit the worst. The storm was snapping 3 foot diameter trees (Good trees) like they were toothpicks and sounded like you were in the middle of the bombing zone in a war. One 3' dian. tree fell on hood of car driving down st.in Lima. People servived but had to be cut out. that item about the contractor, all he done for 5 1/2 month was grind with the biggest tub grinder made and loaded with the biggest 4 way loader bucket made just the limbs the people could drag from their yards to the curb, if it was not on the ground to drag out it didn't dare be put out, the stuff they could not put out had to be taking care of by private contractors the city cleared and pild from the streets. That 5 1/2 month gring was only what was drug out to the curb in city proper, no suberbs. There were probbley in the 1,000+ car range destroyed or dammaged. If it from greater Lima could all have been brought together onder one pile it would have covered 160 acres at over 50' deep with more likely 100+' deep and the hardwoods that are here would take a year to dry before could start burning then that pile would have been burning for 2 years. As of now in my barnyard I have 2 semi loads laying with anouther still in the trees that would have cost over $1,200 to just get dropped for me to take care of and I did also have a colector car have roof caved in plus 24" travel trailer dammaged ; Insurance covered about 1/2 damage. Power companys had help in from Mt. Arie, N. Carolina that got my power back on and they had just been back from the 2004 Florida Huricane for 2 weeks. I was one of lucky ones with power off for 6 days. The city of Wapakoneta (10,000) people was out for 4 days with others out for 3 weeks and some running off the ground rod at their service entrance for anouther 2-3 months till the power companys could get the netrual wires back on the poles. I herd there were power crues in from as far as Maine

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Unimog

08-17-2005 20:08:24

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to Duane(Pa), 08-17-2005 19:34:20

I have a Valby CH150 with a hydraulic feed. I added the power feed and it sure makes using it
easier with less trimming. Hydraulic unit adds
around $3K to the cost. If you keep the blades
sharp and adjusted the standard model draws in
brush very well, it works as a self feed pulling
in the material. I find both types work better
when there are no leaves which is good for me as
I usually chip in the late fall to early spring.
I used my chipper a lot before adding power feed
and it was a little more work and a little slower
but not too bad. Chipping is hard work and time
consuming. I used to burn the brush but it is now
outlawed so chipping is the way for me.

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James2

08-17-2005 20:01:03

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Re: looking for opinions: Three Point Wood Chipper in reply to Duane(Pa), 08-17-2005 19:34:20

We have one, and if you are to use it on small brush, and for most trees with limbs not larger than 1.5 inches dia, a strong arm feed is OK. If you are chipping any hedge or a bunch of larger stuff, say up to 3 inch dia, get a hydraulic feed. Big stuff is OK if it is rotten. We don't have a hydraulic feed, and after the initial enthusiasm phase, now use it infrequently. A match is one heck of alot easier.

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Ken Macfarlane

08-18-2005 07:58:49

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Got a fun chipper story for ya in reply to James2, 08-17-2005 20:01:03

Whe I was young the rich fellow up the road drug home a huge trailed chipper. It was a pintle hitch model with a 60 hp diesel.

All went well popping 8" trees into this sucker (would never do that know with good firewood!)

Well, this fellow is a heavy equipment dealer manager of some sort, the paper pusher sort. The next fall he decided to use it again.

It was cold so it didn't start up right away, but he had a good idea. He always started his snowblower by pouring gas down the carb, which is under the aircleaner.

So he poured a big slug of gas down this beasts throat and cranked her up!

Well, the block split in half lengthwise far enough to see a piston!

Well, that was about hmm, 12 years ago and it stills sits parked in the bushes.

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