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Grub0927

08-17-2005 09:51:55




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I am working on restoring an old hayfield for use as pasture. As it has been idle for years the woody stem brush ,mainly blackberries, has taken over the grass so I have been clipping it w/ my TO-30 and rotary mower about once a month. The TO-30 is no Cadillac and I get beat around on the rough ground because of all the moles hills and gopher mounds. Does anyone have experience with the pasture harrows that look like Soviet cyclone fence? Would it level out the loose dirt from the rodent activity without plugging up with chopped up grass and brush?
I am reluctant to tear up the field (8 acres) to replant as those blackberry seeds have a 7 year shelf life and I would be fighting a bigger battle next year.
How 'bout it guys? What would you do?

Thanks from Oregon.

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Grub0927

08-18-2005 10:05:35




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 Re: Pasture renovation in reply to Grub0927, 08-17-2005 09:51:55  
Guys, thank for all the responses and encouragement to run some some stock and let them do their thing. Somtimes the answers are so simple.
I found a drag in the weeds that I made a million years ago from old truck tires. It's 10' wide, three tires across the front and two behind with a metal pipe drawbar. This thing is heavy enough to do some leveling without any tines to plug up. It will be a great training exercise for my boys to practice their tractor driving pulling that drag in a big field.
Thanks again for helping out!
Grub

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Roy in UK

08-18-2005 04:43:58




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 Re: Pasture renovation in reply to Grub0927, 08-17-2005 09:51:55  
Chain harrows do a good job levelling mole hills and tearing out old thatch but if you have been mowing it and the mowings are of any length at all, be prepared to see your field covered in lots of "little round bales!"



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Loren

08-17-2005 19:47:48




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 Sure glad you asked that! in reply to Grub0927, 08-17-2005 09:51:55  
Hi Grub, you had me thinking you were talking about a field I want to do this too. I'm Oregon too, but "mine" is about 35 acres. Whew! I'm reading....



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grub0927

08-18-2005 09:59:39




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 Re: Sure glad you asked that! in reply to Loren, 08-17-2005 19:47:48  
Loren, I went out again last night to mow some more and found my wallet that I lost out there 4 months ago. The mower had hit it and blown it open but all the credit cards were still there. All the cash was missing but it could be under a grass heap too. I thought I'd never see it again.
I'm on the clip, clip,clip program because I don't want to spray. I found it encouraging what these guys had to say to just run some stock and it will recover. That's what i'm gonna do. I wanted to get all my tillage done (if necessary)before I put up fences. There hasn't been livestock on the place for 20 yrs so that will be a chore. I often look at the grass while I'm mowing and think how dumb it is to burn 2.50/gal gas to mow something a cow could eat. I may not be any good, but at least I'm slow- livestock here we come.
I'm in Newberg- what part of the state are you in?

Grub

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Loren

08-18-2005 22:07:53




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 Re: Sure glad you asked that! in reply to grub0927, 08-18-2005 09:59:39  
You're a more fortunate man than I. I'm looking at borrowed land with no chance of using stock to help out. That's why it's been 3 years since I first looked into this and still haven't started. I know in my gut I should just forget it but it's all just sitting there! The caretaker won't make ANY agreement at all, so niether of us would have even an spec of protection. The old fella that was working it passed so it sits. I'm in the south end of the valley. I really think just removing the scotch broom, mowing the blackberries, killing the Queen Annes Lace, and fertilizing a bit would make a good go of it. It grows a reasonable amount of grass now.

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Jay Elgert

08-17-2005 12:10:12




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 Re: Pasture renovation in reply to Grub0927, 08-17-2005 09:51:55  
I had a similar problem. I found a lady wanting to give away 5 goats free to a good home. I turned them out in the old pasture with all the wild rose bushes, blackberry and rasberry bushes. It's been two years now and it's all grass. Actually, after a year it was back and ready for some drill seeding if I wanted to do it.



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DairyAir

08-17-2005 11:58:46




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 Re: Pasture renovation in reply to Grub0927, 08-17-2005 09:51:55  
Forget the mower and get the animals in it.Make them graze it down tight, with interior cross fencing, and then rest it till its about 8-12" tall. Just keep this up and you will have GOOD pasture before you know it.You still might want to clip once or twice a year but it won"t seem so bad if you don"t have to do it all at once.Of course this is taking for granted you get enough rainfall to support pasturing animals.

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Illinois Boy

08-17-2005 13:03:13




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 Re: Pasture renovation in reply to DairyAir, 08-17-2005 11:58:46  
I did the same thing with some goats on a 10 acre spot - had 'em out there on concrete blocks with chains and collars!!
I borrowed 5 of them from a guy who lives close to me.
My fuel bill was $0.00, and the goat p##p worked well for the grass...



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Ks-farmer

08-17-2005 11:32:27




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 Re: Pasture renovation in reply to Grub0927, 08-17-2005 09:51:55  
I would spray "GRAZON P+D" on it and it will take care of any weeds and leave the grass alone. Once the brush is dead run a rotary mower across it. Spray it on in the spring when things get greened up and then keep it up for the next 7 or so years.
Grazon is 2-4-D with Tordon mix. Your counties Noxious weed Dept. will sell it lots cheaper than the local farm store. Here it's almost 1/2 price, the county pays for the other half.

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Jerry (AL)

08-17-2005 15:57:03




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 Re: Pasture renovation in reply to Ks-farmer, 08-17-2005 11:32:27  
Got a similar problem on about 25 acres. I blocked off the 68 acres I have with about 10 rows of pines. I had a problem with night hunters shooting deer from the roads at night as well as during the day.

Question is if you get much drift on this would it kill the pines?

Prior owner put on fertilizer with the weed killer in it and it looked pretty good.



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