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jeff/no.penna.

08-14-2005 20:02:43




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thinking about installing an outside wood furnace. anybody have comments pro or con? best models, etc. thanks




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marlowe

08-15-2005 16:38:45




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 Re: outside woodheaters in reply to jeff/no.penna. , 08-14-2005 20:02:43  
have one and love it all this pul-shi- about smoke and wood use is bull i have heated with wood for 35 years 2 story farm house and 45 x 30 x18 shop put the outdoor one in 3 years ago and use less wood then ever just as the old saying goes YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. and when you put one in insulat the under ground pipeing good real good i lose 1 degree of heat from stove to heat exchanger on a 50ft. run and DON'T heat your water over 170 i run mine at 160 for most part i fire at 7am 2 pm and 10pm DON'T over fill then you are just wasting wood. i cut and burn i use no real dry wood and like pine the best but also burn junk wood from pallet place a ton of nails they burn to. i spent three years looking and asking questions and some stoves are a lot better then others. don't know what stoves are in your area but check them all out and ask people that have stoves what they think [i would see one and stop and ask don't beleave the dealers ] we keep our house a 80 all the time and i'm in wi. so i know cold

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JMS/MN

08-15-2005 09:41:20




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 Re: outside woodheaters in reply to jeff/no.penna. , 08-14-2005 20:02:43  
I bought an Aqua-Therm (made in Brooten, Mn) in 1988, hooked it to the old house and the shop. Never an issue with smoldering fire, since the air is controlled via sealed electric fan. Without tight control over air admission, I could understand smoldering fire could be an issue. They can safely burn green wood. Tried corn and tires as well, corn is tough to burn unless the unit is designed for it. Chipped tires and corn cobs makes a good mix. We liked the cleanliness issue after having a wood burner inside the house for years. Did not hook it to the new house, because with age and fewer/no kids at home, making wood gets to be an issue. Still have it hooked to the shop., but would like to find a combo boiler that burns wood and fuel oil, and switches over automatically. Smell was never an issue, and the burner is 50 feet from the house, but then we never used it as a garbage burner. We like the safety issue of the fire being away from buildings, instead of inside them.

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paul

08-14-2005 23:22:17




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 Re: outside woodheaters in reply to jeff/no.penna. , 08-14-2005 20:02:43  
You will find 2 camps on this:

1. Greatest thing, you can burn anything in it, green wood, debris, etc. Load it once a day, no mess in the house....

2. They smoke something terrible when on idle. They eat wood like there is no tomorrow - very inefficient. You have to dress up to feed them.

These 2 camps will never see eye to eye, and you need to sort out which feels right to you. :)

I have a farm house in Minnesota that didn't have anything other than a wood boiler in the basement until 1971 - house was built in '26. Still has a wood boiler, it cracked last year. I stuggles with this issue, but as the basement & plumbing is set up for the basement boiler, I put one back in. Efficiency & better built & longer lasting won out for me. I believe the indoor furnace was a better buy for my situation. I believe the outdoor units have some issues.

If I wanted to heat 2-3 buildings, I would consider the outdoor boilers, despite their 'problems'.

Guess that is the camp I am in.... :)

--->Paul

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buickanddeere

08-15-2005 06:04:11




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 Re: outside woodheaters in reply to paul, 08-14-2005 23:22:17  
Outdoor is fine if a clean burning roaring fire is used. Plus a smoke stack tall enough so the neighbours don't get stunk out is required too. Problem is the outside units get stuffed full of trash and the air supply almost closed. The idea is to only have to fill it once a day even when burning junk. All that heat in the absence of enough oxygen just drives the unburned vapours out the stack. The result is lots of creosote, low efficiency, sooted up heat exchangers, carbon monoxide and stunk out neighbours.

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marlowe

08-15-2005 16:43:04




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 Re: outside woodheaters in reply to buickanddeere, 08-15-2005 06:04:11  
how do you get a sooted up heat exchanger???with a water boiler ??



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buickanddeere

08-16-2005 22:33:10




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 Re: outside woodheaters in reply to marlowe, 08-15-2005 16:43:04  
The heat exchanger surface between the hot flue gasses and the water. Soot and creosoot are good thermal insulators.



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