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Dug

08-13-2005 15:44:16




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I had an old pond that had silted in over the years redug three years ago. The silt was taken to the back side of the dam and leveled out. This is where I planted a garden this year and the results were dismal. My corn is about 18 inches tall, the cucumbers are miserable looking specimens and the rest of the garden is in shambles. I was told, after the fact, that the silt would be infertile. Intuitivley it seems as though the silt should produce a great garden. Any thoughts?

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msb

08-13-2005 21:39:05




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 Re: Garden ?s in reply to Dug, 08-13-2005 15:44:16  
There is a lot more to soil than just dirt.Productive soils are chock full of microorganisms of all sizes and shapes.I was amazed when a professor from Canada spoke at a recent National No-Tillage Conference about what goes on in soil.I had absoultely no idea as to the amount and the effect these organisms had on producing a crop.Your soil was devoid of those organisms from being submerged in water so long.It will take some time for them to restore the soil to a productive state.You can sped the process by topdressing the gargen with soils that will grow things and it doesn't take but very little good,productive soil to reestablish the life to the soil.

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kyhayman

08-13-2005 18:56:23




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 Re: Garden ?s in reply to Dug, 08-13-2005 15:44:16  
First of all 'silt' isnt true silt in a pond unless the soil in the watershed about the pond is a pure silt soil. All of the organic matter will be decomposed and the runoff 'silt' will contain an excessively high clay fraction. Minerals will be in their reduced state (as opposed to oxides which are plant available). Without organic matter and with a high clay content the minerals that are in an available state will be almost 'welded' to the clay particles.

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old

08-13-2005 17:36:58




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 Re: Garden ?s in reply to Dug, 08-13-2005 15:44:16  
A lot of times why that doesn't work is because of a high salt build up in the silt from a pond and salt and plants don't mix well



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RN

08-13-2005 17:27:41




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 Re: Garden ?s in reply to Dug, 08-13-2005 15:44:16  
What was the pond used for? Duck pond with a lot of water weed and fish would be richer than runoff collecter from paved area. Lake dredgings with weed used as garden amendment in Madison, Wi area works fairly good, gravel pit dredgings/silt wash is only used to fluff up heavy clay soil. For your garden now? Miracle Grow to get something this season, next year add 6 inch layer of composted manure worked in. If garden has a good fence, pen a couple pigs in it after harvest what you can, let them work up ground. I used to let rams in couple garden patches after harvest to clean up weeds. Fresh manure/ chicken litter/stable sweepings can be turned under in fall- will be ready in 2/3 months- sheet composting- for next year. RN

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Bret4207

08-14-2005 05:54:48




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 Re: Garden ?s in reply to RN, 08-13-2005 17:27:41  
Listen to RN, good advice there. Best thing in the world for an annual, not perenial (asparagus beds, cane fruit), garden is sheep or goats or calves then pigs. Add lawn clippings, sawdust, manure, feathers,- pretty much any organic mater you can find and let the hogs till it in. Get the hogs off before hard freeze and smooth it or better yet form raised beds and get out the seed catalogs for spring.

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