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3 point Roller/ Compactor

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Paul (FLA)

08-11-2005 08:15:19




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Anyone know how to make a roller/ Compactor for a 3 point? Looking for an inexpensive solution to harden up a dirt filled road. Any ideas welcome.

Paul




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paul

08-11-2005 08:27:35




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 Re: 3 point Roller/ Compactor in reply to Paul (FLA), 08-11-2005 08:15:19  
Well, there are obvious weight limits to a 3pt version, how heavy do you need, and how strong is the tractor? If you have a lift capacity of 2000#, and you drive 10,000# pickups & trailers on the road, you won't accomplish much - the tire will squish more back out than the roller can pack down....

What kind of soil are you trying to compact, might have to tear apart your road bed & start over in thing layers packing down the right materials.

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Paul (FLA)

08-11-2005 09:22:22




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 Re: 3 point Roller/ Compactor in reply to paul, 08-11-2005 08:27:35  
Filling in a driveway with sand. (sugar sand, or standard fill dirt. Need to add about 12" in some places, and less in others. I have a TO-30 with a bucket. I was planning to have some fill delivered, and I was going to spread it out, and then compact it. I could just drive over it repeatedly with my tractor, but was looking for a smoother finish.
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gardener

08-12-2005 18:19:01




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 Re: 3 point Roller/ Compactor in reply to Paul (FLA), 08-11-2005 09:22:22  
I've made a roller out of a used 5-ft.galvanized pressure tank, with the fill hole in one end...and welded shut the one on the side and ground it smooth.I've only filled it 3/4 full once to pack a seeded field. That was too heavy. Made a frame on top to carry 20 liter water cans so i can quickly change the weight.
Now, i plan to try this for effective packing of a road surface:
I want to adapt my frame to carry and firmly hold my 5hp vibrating tamper...to rattle while i roll.
I'm thinking that anyone could do this and rent a tamper for the day, but get the results of a vibrating roller any time.
I realise that the bushings and welds will show my weak spots, but i think it's do-able.

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Randy-IA

08-11-2005 16:37:03




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 Re: 3 point Roller/ Compactor in reply to Paul (FLA), 08-11-2005 09:22:22  
Hi , Do it the way you described only fill the bucket on the loader with as much sand as it will carry and use the front wheels to do the packing . You get more PSI on the narrower tires with the weight of the sand as far forward as it is . You're right about the rougher finish so when you feel it's compacted to your liking dump the sand and backdrag with the bucket or a backblade if you have one . Then do the sand in bucket compacting again . Keep this up for 1 or two go-rounds and it'll be packed in there pretty good . Just be sure that the sand's moist before you start . Dry sand won't pack . If you are using something other than staight sand , well , you will have to be the judge as to how moist it needs to be to pack well . Good fill sand has a fair amount of clay in it so it packs well , but it won't make a good roadbed , it turns to soft sand every time it gets wet . You need something that bridges well like scalping's or roadrock ( Class A ) 3/4" to 1" screening's if the base you have right now is firm enough . Then again you're in Florida and I'm not and sand is the soil of choice down there isn't it ? Good luck ...Randy

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Paul (FLA)

08-12-2005 07:31:52




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 Re: 3 point Roller/ Compactor in reply to Randy-IA, 08-11-2005 16:37:03  
I like the method you describe. your right about the clay when it rains getting slippery. I try keep a good crown so the rain will run off instead of making a mud puddle.
Thanks for everyones input.

Paul



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T_Bone

08-12-2005 00:33:29




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 Re: 3 point Roller/ Compactor in reply to Randy-IA, 08-11-2005 16:37:03  
Hi Paul,

They have been using Ben-ti-nite with our road sand here and it makes a road base/cap about like a soft concrete. They do blade it so it's not real hard but firm. Since were so dry here (AZ) it also helps keep the road dust down (huge difference).

Ben-ti-nite(I have no idea how to spell it) comes from Texas mines. Well drillers use it for drilling mud as it packs the bore hole walls before the casing is set. It's a form of cheap clay. Should be very easy to get in your local area.

A road packer can be very easy made from a length of 12" pipe, couple Ag bearings, pipe fittings and some framing metal, about 700lbs when filled with water. Drain the water when done. A 10ft long 12" pipe contains about 500lbs of water.

T_Bone

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Randy-IA

08-12-2005 18:32:10




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 Re: 3 point Roller/ Compactor in reply to T_Bone, 08-12-2005 00:33:29  
Hi T_Bone , The bentonite we use here is a clay that swells in contact with water . We use it as a waterproofer but there are hundreds of other uses for it too such as how it's used there in Arizona . When it gets wet , the first time at least , it gets slimey . Since we bury it around poured foundations I really don't know what it does after it gets wet the first time . We get it in sausage like tubes and 1/4" thick by 4' square sheets . In bulk semi loads it's also used to line ponds . 3" of it will make sand waterproof . I don't generally check the bottoms of ponds either ;`} . Just useless facts to know and tell , Take care ...Randy

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