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Can a grain drill be used to plant corn?

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Gary- The Rooki

08-10-2005 14:32:03




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I saw a John Deere- Van Brunt grain drill for sale for $175. Can it be used for planting corn?




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Jim1206

08-11-2005 05:18:31




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-10-2005 14:32:03  
Yes it can be used, but so can a broadcast seeder or a coffee can for that matter but why would you want to? Like everyone else said if you are trying to make a crop buy a corn planter or hire a neighbor to plant it for you.



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Leland

08-10-2005 22:26:11




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-10-2005 14:32:03  
when I worked for the corps of engineers we used a drop spreader about 14' wide mixed all the food plot grains together then disked in worked good if this is what you are doing



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Ks-farmer

08-10-2005 20:35:47




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-10-2005 14:32:03  
About eight years ago Cargill seed was advertising around here their 1077 variety seed corn and they advised using a drill to plant it. It was recommend that you plant that variety at 15" rows and harvest with a wheat type header but of course set the cylinder to size. The heigth of the corn was about 4' tall.



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BobMo

08-10-2005 19:09:11




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-10-2005 14:32:03  
If you want to be a farmer why not buy a planter since you can get one to do it right for what your going to spend for this thing to do a half----- job. There's a reason planters have plates. Good luck which ever way you go..



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wolfman

08-10-2005 17:09:18




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-10-2005 14:32:03  
Yep. We had an old Ontario grain drill with iron wheels; it had a way to close off so many seed openings. I think we planted three 35in rows. Worked rather well. Could only plant at one depth & fertilizer not exactly side dressed, but it did the job.



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BEN in KS

08-10-2005 16:05:25




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-10-2005 14:32:03  
Good advice from others...plant spacing in the row will be uneven, corn is sensitive to that. Other wise, a good price for a good old drill! You can plant all kinds of stuff with them, especially if it has double-run openers. Ben



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Gary- The Rookie Farmer

08-11-2005 03:42:14




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to BEN in KS, 08-10-2005 16:05:25  
To answer one question:
I'm considering this grain drill because I can't find a corn planter.

To ask a question:
What are double run openers?



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James2

08-11-2005 13:10:54




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-11-2005 03:42:14  
Gary:
Are you sure it's not a double run feed rather than double run openers. I really never heard double disk openers called double run openers. However, if you really mean double run feed that a totally different animal. Basic feed types are, 1) fluted and 2) double run. An after market third type using a belt for more accurate seeding, can be reto-fitted. A double run feed would be better for planting corn. A friend borrowed my double run drill which also had double disk openers. We blocked the seed openings in the box, so rows were approx 30 inches wide, in case he wanted to cultivate. Sowed around 3 acres. He did it for the deer/wildlife and was happy with the results. Plan on doing some preplant tillage, at least twice disking with a heavy disk or better yet plow. Got to have some loose dirt to drill corn. He didn't do any post cultivation and it got a little weedy. Population control and spacing is not great, but I assume you are not trying to raise 200 bu/acre corn. It's a little tricky to maintain the correct spacing between passes without markers, but again you are not trying to set any yield records. Some drills have markers, two of the three I own do, but the 10 ft drill just seemed to a better match for the job than a 20 footer.

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Gary- The Rookie Farmer

08-11-2005 09:20:22




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-11-2005 03:42:14  
I guess I should have said that this will be for use in planting deer food plots, I have no concern about harvesting the crop.

Since a drill can be used to plant corn, soys and grain (all of which I do plant) do you think it would be a better value to me than a 2 row corn planter (which I can't find)?



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Don-Wi

08-11-2005 16:00:44




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-11-2005 09:20:22  
Just stick w/ the drill. A 2 row planter, as you have found, will be hard to find, and when you do find one it''l be expensive. My dad planted corn a couple times w/ our old Van Brunt drill before he bought a 494A corn planter.(used to use a 1-row Fox Harvester, now we use a newer 2 row Fox) Still have both planters, they work great. Our drill only has single disks and it's never had any problems in any type of soil.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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paul

08-11-2005 08:23:24




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-11-2005 03:42:14  
If you want a good grain crop of good yield, keep looking for a corn planter.

If you are trying to feed deer and never harvest anything, you can get corn to grow from this or broadcasting or whatever.

For a harvestable crop, corn likes a very even depth, nice firm seed trench, very even spacing between kernals. You don't get any of those with a drill - which is good for oats, rye, wheat, soybeans. Those crops are not so fussy about these things.

The best way to make a seed trench is 2 coulters (straight round blades) in a V shape cutting through the ground making a V trench. In some soil conditions a 'runner' or just a metal bar was used to carve a trench for each row. Also single disc openers, which us a single shallow cupped disc blade to make a rough trench was also an option. Double run would be the 2 coulters.

--->Paul

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Farmered

08-12-2005 04:12:52




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to paul, 08-11-2005 08:23:24  
Paul, Double run refers to the feed type and can be used with double disc, single disc or hoe type openers. The other type is called fluted feed. Ed



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farmerboybill

08-10-2005 15:47:38




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-10-2005 14:32:03  
Depends.... Do you plan to harvest it or are you talking food plot?

If food plot, go for it. If harvesting with a picker, hold out for a planter. Sweet corn might be okay if you plan on hand harvesting.



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edchainsaw

08-10-2005 14:37:21




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 Re: Can a grain drill be used to plant corn? in reply to Gary- The Rookie Farmer, 08-10-2005 14:32:03  
yes it can be used to plant corn...
there is a place in the books of them that usually say how.

you have to plug off some of the holes to give row spacing--- and the drop is not acrate and the depth control is not either.



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