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CB in central N

08-08-2005 07:33:20




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Greetings, folks.

I am looking for a source of info. about hay elevator systems (I did a quick Internet search and came up with very little). For most of the haying I use an accumulator (the also call it a bale sledge) and grab setup and it works OK, but I am limited in how high I can stack with my loader (10 small squares high). That way, the top part of the barn is wasted space.

I"ve seen folks with hay elevators connecting to conveyor sections, which in turn take the bales into the mow, change directions, can make turns, etc. My biggest problem is that there is just the two of us (wife and myself) and I don"t have two other guys to put in the mow. So if a basic elevator delivers the bales up to the mow, I"d still have a problem stacking by myself.

Any suggestions / source info. would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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HaySam

08-09-2005 05:18:27




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 Re: Hay elevator systems in reply to CB in central NY, 08-08-2005 07:33:20  
My sugustion would be to build another barn .



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OldTimeFarmer

08-08-2005 16:40:01




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 Re: Hay elevator systems in reply to CB in central NY, 08-08-2005 07:33:20  
Depends on how many bales you are looking to put up, but I have two large pole sheds (30" by 80") that I fill using an outside hay conveyor and then have conveyor sections resting on the trusses that runs the length of the shed. Sections bolt together, and use an enclosed electric motor to drive this conveyor. Each of these Malco sectioned conyeyors came with a diverter flipper that will push bales off in either direction.

If you go to an auction sale, especially a farm that dairied, they frequently had these in the hay mows.

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OldTimeFarmer

08-09-2005 07:02:31




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 Re: Hay elevator systems in reply to OldTimeFarmer, 08-08-2005 16:40:01  
Forgot to mention that mowing in a shed with an overhead conveyor is the easiest mowing in the world. Don't ever have to carry very far.

Difficult mowing is when you've got an elevator or conveyor poked in one end of a big barn with a mow and you carry it to the far wall.

I'm no superman, but I'm 75, and my hay crew is me, my wife and the hired man (43). Wife drives the baler, and me and the hired man tradeoff unloading loads and mowing. If I need empty wagons and hired man isn't here, wife unloads and I mow.

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paul

08-08-2005 09:27:51




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 Re: Hay elevator systems in reply to CB in central NY, 08-08-2005 07:33:20  
You can get a used 40' bale elevator for $400 or less. It will be a lot of work tho to stack by hand. You will also need to unstack these top layers by hand.....

A more complicated setup with a convayor across the top & push-offs will cost a lot more, and take away some head room, and still you need to stack & unstack.

For that money, as others say, look to getting a loader/ tractor that will stack higher?

--->Paul

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Ken Macfarlane

08-08-2005 07:59:01




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 Re: Hay elevator systems in reply to CB in central NY, 08-08-2005 07:33:20  
I'd say if you need more capacity look at your current system. Conveyers and hand stacking takes a lot of time.

So say your grab holds 8 bales. Say you make 50 lb bales, you have 400 lbs of hay and 300 lbs of grab. The grab about weights the same as a bucket.

Even our little Kubota will lift almost 2000 lbs to full height. Why not look at getting a welder to make an extension arm for the grab? He could even get fancy and make an extendible one run off a remote so you can have a short setting too.

I'd bet you could get an extra 4 or 5 feet if you have a moderate size tractor.

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broker farmer

08-08-2005 08:58:59




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 Re: Hay elevator systems in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 08-08-2005 07:59:01  
I agree. You simply need a better bale grabber that will reach higher. Check out these two company's: wwww.steffensystems.com and www.lewcomfg.com



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Randy-IA

08-08-2005 17:21:31




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 Re: Hay elevator systems in reply to broker farmer, 08-08-2005 08:58:59  
Hi To expand on the ideas that where previously mentioned you could go to construction auctions and look for telescoping boom forklifts . We have a JCB 530BHL that extends up to 27 feet high with a load of about 2000 lbs on rubber , with the stabalizers down it'll lift close to 8000 lbs up tight and then you can extend it up if you keep it almost over your head . My boss picked up a used one this spring for $5000 . They are backwards tractors made in England with a 4-cylinder Perkins . Selectable 4-wheel drive . Rear steer . The company even sells a grapple for it and a lot of other farm oriented attachments . Almost everyone makes a teleboom anymore so keep your eyes open for construction auctions . Good luck ...Randy

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