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New Holland 1010 bale wagon

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Chick

08-07-2005 00:36:12




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Can anyone provide information (good or bad) about the NH 1010 bale wagon? What are some of the weak points? Best way to unload stack (no push off pads)? Can push off pads be installed? Thanks!




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Jack Jennings

12-24-2006 18:40:14




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 Re: New Holland 1010 bale wagon in reply to Chick, 08-07-2005 00:36:12  
I just purchased an old NH 1010 Automatic Hay Wagon since it looks like I'm back in the hay business (after a 20 year rest). It was great to find this topic in this forum. Since I have had zero experience with these things and there are very few here in Southern New Jersey, I purchased the Operator's Manual from NH. The manual shows the use of "Stack hooks" and "Pull off hooks" that are used to hold the load after the wagon has bee tipped vertically and before it is pulled out from under the load (the Model 1010 does not have push off blocks). The manual has illustrations of the stack hooks and pull off hooks but they didn't comewith the wagon, I have had no luck in finding a place to buy them. They look easy enough to build from round stock, chain and pipe but I have no idea of chain size, stock size, lengths, etc. If any one can help with either a source of commercial hooks or dimensions, I would appreciate it. In post 95676 Ghost rider provided the basic dimensions of these chains. I'd like some other particulars, including: What diameter round stock used to make the stack hooks? Is the large "L" shaped pull-off hook made of pipe or solid stock? It looks like pipe in the picture. What diameter? What is the link size of the chain used?

Jack

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chick

08-08-2005 16:43:12




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 Re: New Holland 1010 bale wagon in reply to Chick, 08-07-2005 00:36:12  
Thankd for the information! I"m sure it will all be a help. These "pull off chains" you speak of, I need to know more about them. I guess you made them yourself. I would like to see a picture of them, if you have one. Also, is there a "best" way to hook them up and use them? There are no bale wagons around here. One man had one for a couple of years (160 bale model), but got rid of it, citeing operational problems. Everyone around here is useing the accumulator and front end loader mechanism.

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ghostrider

08-09-2005 05:15:29




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 Re: New Holland 1010 bale wagon in reply to chick, 08-08-2005 16:43:12  
The chains are factory made. 2 sets (2 chains each)unloading and stacking. There are many illustrations in the manual regarding use of the chains. They are pretty simple things. Unloading- One end is a large "L" shape, leg is 24", stem is 36" in big side, 8" leg and 16" stem on small side. The small hook gets driven into the ground and the big hook gets set in front of the stack after the wagon is tilted up in the air. The chain is 12' long. These chains pull the load off of the wagon. I always meant to make a 4 x 4 post to distribute the load across the base of the stack. The bales like to bow outward.

The second set of chains use the same small hooks on a 15' foot chain. These chains are set diagonally on the stack. They tie the stack on the wagon to the existing stack. With no push off pads, a bulkhead must be built for the first full stack. It is a staircase of bales. We tried to stack without it, and made very unstable stacks.

Also, these wagons need a tie layer in the stack. Autotie was an option I believe. If you get the wagon, be sure to get a manual which explains all of this in great detail. Ours had the tines to tranport a finished stack. Never did because you have to disassemble the whole upper loop structure.

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Errin OH

08-08-2005 07:24:03




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 Re: New Holland 1010 bale wagon in reply to Chick, 08-07-2005 00:36:12  
Can't say I ever used one but have been told you can over come the push off issue by laying 4x4's on the floor when you unload. Stand it up on the 4x's and drive out from under them.



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onefarmer

08-08-2005 06:31:49




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 Re: New Holland 1010 bale wagon in reply to Chick, 08-07-2005 00:36:12  
I have two of them. Not as nice as a bigger one with the feet but it works. I unload in a shed and once I get the rack up and ready to pull out I slip a board between the hay and the rack. Tie it back to the shed wall. I also made some hooks to poke into upper bales and tie them to the shed wall. This works the best for me almost as good as push off feet but takes more time.



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ghostrider

08-08-2005 06:27:21




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 Re: New Holland 1010 bale wagon in reply to Chick, 08-07-2005 00:36:12  
I have used one of these for years. Weak points: First table-Usually the hinge area is built up and welded. Return rack-Frame rack can bow and cock in tracks. Usually welded up.

Pros
Single bale unload would be nice. I haven't been able to get mine to work. Weak rack cylinder I guess.

Cons
Not known for pretty stacks due to lack of push off feature. Might be able to get a larger capacity model for a little more money.

All and all, I like mine. I convinced the in-laws to buy a 1033 wagon. They like it so much they built a dedicated bale for the stacks. I think that the larger wagons are a better deal just for capacity and push-off feature. My pull off chains are about worn out!

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kyhayman

08-07-2005 15:24:02




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 Re: New Holland 1010 bale wagon in reply to Chick, 08-07-2005 00:36:12  
I had one, it took as long to unload as it did to load due to the lack of push offs getting the hooks and chains set. I sold it and got a 1034. The 1012 has a push off system that should be 'modifiable' to go on a 1010 but I would expect it would cost as much to do as it would to fix up the 1010 and sell it then buy a 1012 or 1033/4.



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