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Don-Wi

08-06-2005 14:36:14

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Just have to vent..... We're borrowing the neighbor's JD 800 swather to do our oats. First off, last night it rolled off the back of the trailer w/ the beaver still up cause it doesn't have any brakes anymore. Then today after making the first round in the second feild, I pulled back to hard on the lever to make a turn and I snapped the drive chain. I FINALLY got that all back together, only to find out it goes forward somewhat, but when I hit the oats the one side doesn't move, but it'll back up. I start looking underneath it. Low and behold, the clutch disk is shredded and there is a peice still sitting on the guard.

Our other neighbors have an 800 just like it they're parting out because they have an 830. Luckily for us, they needed that side's drive belt to get the other one home, so they had their's almost all apart. Now I've gotta take our borrowed one apart and back together....

Feels good to vent
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Randy-IA

08-08-2005 15:50:01

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

Hi , Ya gotta do what ya gotta do ! Don't let the nay sayers get you down ! Not all of us inherited our land and money and we know how to work for it ! If it breaks when ya borrow it ya fix it a little better than it was before , that's just the way it is . If ya lend something , that just makes you a good neighbor and if it's returned broke with no expanation or offer to fix or help fix then there goes a friendship which it really wasn't anyway since they are screwing you . Glad to hear it all worked out ! Good luck with the rest of the year ! ...Randy

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Don-Wi

08-08-2005 20:25:32

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Randy-IA, 08-08-2005 15:50:01

I'm gonna need all the luck I can get!!! Tonight i was cutting down some canary/swamp grass and the carier bearing went out in our haybine. We just so happen to have a donor machine we chopped down a little and we have the whole PTO shaft and gear box around so we're gonna swap the whole works. The gear box has a bad seal anyway, so why not right?

Dunno why, but the past 1 1/2 years have been really hard on universal joints and sealed bearings around our place. Last year I put a new joint in our blower, our green chopper needed one till the rest of it took a puke last fall, our Meyer's forage wagon lost a bearing we replaced in '03, and the haybine had a bad joint as well. Not to metinon the 3 bearings we put in our manure spreader. I was planning on doing this swap eventually, maybe after I had everything else fixed up.(list seems to grow 2 items for every 1 I take off) That's the luck of the draw I guess.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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max adams

08-07-2005 18:58:50

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

Don, I simpathise with you. This is why i hate to barrow, But sometimes we have to, what ever the reason. I have a JD 800 and i love it. It does a heck of a job. I too had a little problem with the chains on mine. It was a little intimadating at first. But after i got into it, it was not as bad i as i thought. I too use the old stuff myself but thats what I like to do(it's a sickness i guess). But it does feel good to vent, been there,done that. so we are there for you... hang in there! GOOD LUCK!!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !

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Dave Sherburne,NY

08-07-2005 15:28:57

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Why use a swather ?!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

I lived i Wi for a while and the guy I worked for
used a swather. Why?? In NY, Oats etc. are combined and only low enough to get the grain.
Why use a swather, and run all the stalk weeds grass and new seeding thru the combine?? Seems
like a lot of unnecessary wear and tear on an
expensive machine. After the combine finishes,
if we want the straw or whatever, it is mowed with
a haybine, allowed to dry throughly, and baled
If you are swathing it to get the grain to dry the stuff on the bottom doesn't dry anyway. I JUST DON'T GET IT.

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Don-Wi

08-07-2005 19:50:29

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Re: Why use a swather ?!!!!!! in reply to Dave Sherburne,NY, 08-07-2005 15:28:57

we use a swather because the custom guy couldn't get here quick enough, and the weeds outgrew the oats, and lots of it was knocked down. The last 2 years they did it standing, but with the weeds that came through and the alfalfa, they snapped a belt the first year and had troubles last year as well. Cut it 2 days before the combine, and the weeds wilt enought to not cause troubles, and we also need the straw, so just clipping the heads doesn't do it for us, and then it gets run down and chokes out the new seeding. That sort of thing happens when the oats grows 3-4' tall, no kidding there either. The haybine doesn't pick it up if it's smashed to the ground.

The guy w/ the combine wants us to swath it, it's ALOT easier on his machine than snapping belts that sure aint paid for by doing our small feilds. Only charges $100-150 to run it, put it in their boom truck and right into our grain bin, we don't have to touch it at all.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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havvey

08-07-2005 10:24:37

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

better to borrow and save than to buy and spend!!

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Bob

08-07-2005 08:51:09

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

That job really is'nt THAT BAD, it's WORSE!

Actually, once you get into it, it goes pretty well, but it's a MISERABLE place to work!

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Don-Wi

08-07-2005 13:55:36

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Bob, 08-07-2005 08:51:09

Well, I got it together, it works, and our oats are all knocked down. It wasn't as bad as I was thinking when I first found it (Saturday afternoon, after the only JD dealer in 20 miles away is closed) We got lucky. our other neighbors had that side clutch loose already from stealing a belt off it, so they finished the job and took it out for us. this morning I had a questuion about it and the guy ended up comeing out and helping me put it in. What a nice person...
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Jerry D in NC

08-07-2005 17:46:55

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-07-2005 13:55:36

Thats what I call neighbors. They are the ones that will stop when they see you working in a hay field by yourself or your well pump goes out in the nastiest weather or helps you put siding on your house in freezing weather because others messed up your schedule and you need it done. You would have helped him fix the machine if it had broken on him and he had asked you. Enjoy the feeling of having someone willing to help you. Obviously several people don't have that and don't understand.....

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Don-Wi

08-07-2005 20:11:11

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Jerry D in NC, 08-07-2005 17:46:55

I don't know if they'll help w/ the siding, but we can usually count on each other in a pinch. My dad has helped one or 2 put up they're corn back in the day, and they've helped us also. It's hard trying to do it all on our own anymore.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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txgrn

08-07-2005 07:21:55

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That's some heavy cussin, Grin in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

Sorry about your misfortune.

I don't loan my stuff cause you never know what you will get back and it is not always deliberate destruction. Lots of time it is lack of familiarization with the piece due to it being seldom or first time to use(d).

Even with my stuff, I start the season in a state of stupidity cause I forgot how to operate some things from the last season.

And then there is my neighbor that tears up everything mechanical he touches...Why? Because he has no mechanical aptitude and has no idea what he's doing to the equipment when he uses it. All his one track mind (per his wife) thinks about is what he wants to do and it doesn't work.

My 2c,

Mark

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MarkB_MI

08-07-2005 04:30:13

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

Now you know why they were willing to loan it to you.

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Don-Wi

08-07-2005 08:02:03

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to MarkB_MI, 08-07-2005 04:30:13

The guy is my mom's cousin, so he aint out to make us pay for a repair, and he's willing to help out anyway he can. He know's it's old, We know it's old, only reason he has it is for when either his discbine is out of commision, or when he needs to swath something instead of cutting it w/ the discbine. This year is the first year he's had it running in 3 years, only because he had to cut his oats & peas, but the discbine sucked down too hard in the fresh feild.

The neighbors we got the replacement clutch from took the clutch out of our 165 massey about 7-8 years ago when they ran it on a generator that they normally run w/ a 100 hp+ tractor. Poor little girl was just barking on that thing.

We really don't like borrowing, but we just can't afford it, and for our measly 80 acres, it aint worth buying new. We make due with old, worn out equipment that sometimes breaks down. I don't know why everyone has to jump my @ss about it, I'm just venting, and I know everyone has had one of those days. It's my own fault it's busted, I yanked back too hard on the lever and I snapped the connector link on the drive chain and evidentally the clutch disk was almost gone as well.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Brent in IA

08-07-2005 13:20:13

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-07-2005 08:02:03

I hear ya. Most of us understood you were just venting but some just had to take it to the another level....

Good luck with the oats and hope your next day goes better!

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Miss Grundy

08-07-2005 04:15:24

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

SUCH LANGUAGE Get inside and wash your mouth with soap. You will get no dessert for a week!

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holcombwa

08-06-2005 21:26:27

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

I enjoy reading a good vent once in a while. I feel for ya. Stan

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Ken Crisman

08-06-2005 20:42:56

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

I made a vow to never again borrow anything . Ya borrow & brake ; ya have to buy the person a new one & ya still don't have one yourself . Buy your own & then its yours . The guy probably knew it was due for repairs & found a sucker to borrow it .

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shoeie

08-06-2005 20:05:51

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

Don't really know what your problem is. If you're
not happy with a borrowed rig , buy one of your own.

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Rob in Oregon

08-06-2005 18:57:23

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

Glad we could help! Stop by anytime!

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Newman

08-06-2005 18:04:56

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

When we were farming every once in while I would borrow an implement like a grain drill or nitrogen rig cause we were to poor to own one. And as you know it something would break.If something broke,it got fixed and after I finished with it I always cleaned it up and returned it,offer to pay owner some rent and thanked him. As time went on I managed to get the equipment I needed.

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Alvin NE WI

08-06-2005 17:09:10

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

I never got caught up by geting a neighbors machine. It always got broke somehow, and thanI fix it for him. I also never leave any one use my stuff, cause when it comes home it doesn"t work and they don"t tell me about the damage. So guess who has to cough up money for fixing? Me, so now everything stays home.

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Don-Wi

08-06-2005 20:04:48

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Alvin NE WI, 08-06-2005 17:09:10

We don't really let anyone use our equipment, but then again we don't have anything the neighbors want to borrow, other than our gehl 970 wagon. We don't have a need for a swather other than the occasional time we have to do our oats because the weeds got too high, like this year. The last 2 years they did the oats standing, but it just won't go this year.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Indydirtfarmer

08-06-2005 16:39:19

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

@%#$$@ *&@$#% *@$%^!&#$%^ )**#%^%%$@?})&^%

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Hope this helps!

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Jim K

08-07-2005 08:27:54

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 08-06-2005 16:39:19

You get a penalty for using too many @'s in one sentence.
My motto is always return in better condition than when recieved, that way you'll never have any prob when you need to borrow in future,so wash and wax it and maybe he won't notice. (kidding) What you might try doing is talking to him let him know what happened and how it happened and maybe if he's a good hearted and honest person he'll split the cost of repair.
Stay on a good repore with the guy because you'll probably find that he's the only neighbor that'll let you borrow his stuff. eventually even though his maintenence practices may be lacking his tractor will be getting maintained on a regular basis, I'd even offer to take the thing for a while and just go right through it, only if you have the skills though, If not you may be doing more harm than good. because he just might not know how to do it himself.

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Indydirtfarmer

08-07-2005 13:22:14

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Jim K, 08-07-2005 08:27:54

C@n't help it, I stutter.....

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Jim K

08-07-2005 17:21:24

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 08-07-2005 13:22:14

At"s a gooder.

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fixerupper

08-06-2005 20:48:10

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 08-06-2005 16:39:19

Around here we reserve that kind of language for (1) loading hogs (2) putting a gearbox back into a machine that should allow just a quarter inch more room (3) when one of those wasps the guys on the tool talk side are talking about nips you on the top of the ear! Have a good one. Jim

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Rustyj14

08-07-2005 08:57:41

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to fixerupper, 08-06-2005 20:48:10

Speaking of loading hogs, i went out one cold snowing wintry day, with 2 friends to pick up 3 pigs for the friend! Snow was 2 foot deep, and pigs were at a farm about 1 half mile off the hiway, back a lane! And i had a 2 wheel drive pickup! With a cap! Finally made it in to the barn, went inside, tried to lead pigs out to truck! Pigs, being smarter than us, decided they didn't want to go outside in the snow! Nothing could change their minds! Finally, we put a 5 gallon bucket over their heads, and led them out of the barn backwards, all the way up to the truck! Several fellows helped get them into the truck and we went home! Do any of you farmers do that when getting pigs to go, when they just don't want to? Short of a 222 in the head! by: Rustyj

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fixerupper

08-07-2005 19:42:14

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Rustyj14, 08-07-2005 08:57:41

A bushel basket works too, especially on sows.

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Illinois Boy

08-06-2005 14:38:03

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Re: %$*^@%$*%$^%_$#$!)%*^%$#@!!!!!!!! in reply to Don-Wi, 08-06-2005 14:36:14

I hear ya' man - Sometimes you just have to do that!!

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