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NH 850 baler and Oliver 1650

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Rich Iowa

07-31-2005 07:09:13




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I called a guy about a NH 850 chain baler. Says it has elec. tie, floor chain 1 year old, good tires, other chains replaced w/ HD chain couple years back. Said it makes 5.5" X up to 6" bales that weight 900-1600lb. Does that sound right? He"s asking $1250. Would my Oliver 1650 handle the baler on moderate slopes? How do you wire up the elec. twine wrap? Would be using it on 5 acres of hay and cornstalks when I get livestock. Thanks for any and all help. Rich

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caseyc

08-01-2005 10:38:49




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 Re: NH 850 baler and Oliver 1650 in reply to Rich Iowa, 07-31-2005 07:09:13  
the electric tie is a snap! there will be a box that mounts on your tractor. mine has two wires, one ground, one power for the tractor then three wires exit the box and go to the baler. i used a 4 flat trailer connector and leave the box mounted on the tractor. just plug it in like a trailer when you hook up the baler. i bale with a 706 (75hp) and it"s a perfect match. like everybody else has said, 1650 should do just fine. drive slow, keep the windrows alittle smaller and you"ll make a nice tight bale. you can"t tell mine apart from the neighbors made with a belt baler.

casey in SD

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Robhkent

07-31-2005 19:07:23




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 Re: NH 850 baler and Oliver 1650 in reply to Rich Iowa, 07-31-2005 07:09:13  
Rich:

I don"t know about using the 1650, should be alright at your place. The electric tie on the 850"s works great... I have one. Large electric motor with a box that looks like a joystick to mount on the fender. Hit the lever one way and the arm moves down and left. Hit it the other way, up and right..or vice versa. These old 850s will bale ANYTHING that will feed into them. I used to run ours with an 856 (100+hp) but you don"t need that mcuh power. 75 should be enough. Also there is no horn to tell you these are full, watch the baler and DO NOT OVERFILL main chain is very expensive.

Rob

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PaMike

07-31-2005 12:26:17




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 Re: NH 850 baler and Oliver 1650 in reply to Rich Iowa, 07-31-2005 07:09:13  
You will have enough horsepower to run it fine. You will probably have to gear down when going up a hill with an almost full bale. Biggest problem I have is coming down the hill and trying to turn at the bottom. The baler wants to push the tractor sideways. Be very careful till you really learn the baler! As far as the electric wrap. The wrapping is actually done mechanically. The electric is only used for the warning box that flashes and honks when the bale is full. All you do is hook it to the battery.

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Don-Wi

07-31-2005 11:11:08




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 Re: NH 850 baler and Oliver 1650 in reply to Rich Iowa, 07-31-2005 07:09:13  
Can't say for sure for the electric wrap, but I did something similar to our 1855 for the modified electric spout on our fox 3000. The motor was taken out of a 92 blazer for the window. I had to get a ON/OFF/ON toggle switch, one w/ 6 terminals on the back. Power & grond in, plus power & ground to go in both directions. I started out by getting a power source off the ign. switch, so it only works when the key is on. This is also fused w/ a 15A fuse. I brought the ground straight to the battery.

The motor only has 2 wires, so in one direction one is power, the other is ground. To go to other way, the polarity is reversed. What I did is hooked one wire to the top terminal on either side. Then I spliced another wire into each of the 2 going to the motor, then brought them to the switch, tied to the opposite terminal the main wire is. This acts as the ground. I've been running it 2 years like this w/out any problems. I also got a rubber boot that screws onto the toggle switch over the top, so water can't get in. If you don't have either a marine grade switch or the rubber boot, the switch will rust tight within a few months. I would think the tie motor would be almost the same, but you may talk to a NH dealer to confirm this. As far as location of the switch, the 1855 has lots of extra holes in the dash, and our 1600 has a few extra also. I used a washer on each side if the hole is too big for the fuse/switch. Other wise drill a hole where it's most conveinient to reach.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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old

07-31-2005 07:31:16




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 Re: NH 850 baler and Oliver 1650 in reply to Rich Iowa, 07-31-2005 07:09:13  
A 1650 should play with a NH 850 I pull my 850 with a Super 88 and it plays with it. As far as the weight of a bale it can be up around 2000lbs or more. I know because till I turn my baler down some this year I was getting 2000lbs bales.



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