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Bernie in MA

07-29-2005 05:45:06




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I'm looking for opinions on whether a pitman made out of steel tubing is a good idea or not. The mower has a breakaway latch. I'm sick of making wooden ones. TIA+




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havvey

07-30-2005 14:16:11




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 Re: Mower pitman in reply to Bernie in MA, 07-29-2005 05:45:06  
that was tried here broke other parts if there is problems fix them. you can buy pitmans i always keep an extra in stock. for $7 pitman is easier to repair than other parts.



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Sid

07-29-2005 21:23:12




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 Re: Mower pitman in reply to Bernie in MA, 07-29-2005 05:45:06  
I have seen a couple done with pipe. Both gave good service. Both mowers were checked out and other things done at the same time. Both mowers were belt driven with belt set a little loose to allow for slippage if needed. As other have said something else is wrong with the mower that needs to be fixed either way you go.



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Sid

07-29-2005 21:22:53




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 Re: Mower pitman in reply to Bernie in MA, 07-29-2005 05:45:06  
I have seen a couple done with pipe. Both gave good service. Both mowers were checked out and other things done at the same time. Both mowers were belt driven with belt set a little loose to allow for slippage if needed. As other have said something else is wrong with the mower that needs to be fixed either way you go.



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Sid

07-29-2005 21:22:32




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 Re: Mower pitman in reply to Bernie in MA, 07-29-2005 05:45:06  
I have seen a couple done with pipe. Both gave good service. Both mowers were checked out and other things done at the same time. Both mowers were belt driven with belt set a little loose to allow for slippage if needed. As other have said something else is wrong with the mower that needs to be fixed either way you go.



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Joel Harman

07-29-2005 07:41:44




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 Re: Mower pitman in reply to Bernie in MA, 07-29-2005 05:45:06  
check out ledger plates, the knife. Make sure it is timed correctly.



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old

07-29-2005 06:13:58




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 Re: Mower pitman in reply to Bernie in MA, 07-29-2005 05:45:06  
I have seen a number of them done that way, but when I saw them they where all laying in the weeds because they where now junk. The wooden ones are there as a safety put metal there and sooner or later your good sickle bar mower will become a good boat ancor



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Yeoman

07-29-2005 10:06:47




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 Re: Mower pitman in reply to old, 07-29-2005 06:13:58  
"Listen" to this guy he knows what he is talking about. Unless you are pulling the mower over large rocks and stone or the machine is out of register (time) a pitman stick should last almost forever. Find the problem; fix it. A steel pitman will just allow something else to fail. best, Phil



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injunrick

07-31-2005 15:15:39




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 Re: Mower pitman in reply to Yeoman, 07-29-2005 10:06:47  
I"m a newbie at working on mowers,so is there any place or books that would tell you how to time/register a Massey-Harris mower??



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Doug in Oh

08-27-2005 17:49:24




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 Re: Mower pitman in reply to injunrick, 07-31-2005 15:15:39  
I'm sure there are books out there.But to check the time on your mower simply role your mower so that you can watch the knife travels from one gard to another,not just go half way,it must travel from at least from center to center from gard to gard.And also make sure your bar hold downs are not worn,the knifes or sections should just clear your gard plates,no slack up or down,it tends to let the grass bind and not get cut.And keep your knifes sharp,or get the self sharping ones.hope this helps.

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Steve (Magnolia, TX)

07-29-2005 06:01:09




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 Re: Mower pitman in reply to Bernie in MA, 07-29-2005 05:45:06  
You asked for opinions, so... here's mine...

I wouldn't do it. First off, I'd try and determine what's causing your wooden ones to break. My thoughts are that they're made out of (breakable) wood for a reason... keeps other "more expensive" parts (like the knife, or the gearbox, etc.) from breaking.

Is the bar lifting (when it shouldn't be)?
Is the knife binding?
Are you using it as a brush hog? :-)
Is there slop in the gearbox?

Of course, it's your mower. And it might depend on the mower, as well. Mine is a JD #5 (chain drive) so chances are, in the gearbox, I'd break the chain before anything else (I would think?)... which may not be so bad to replace... and my knife bar has already been welded MANY times...

I'd be curious to see some "Pro" comments (other than the obvious "lasts longer than wood") for this, as I could possibly be convinced...

Steve

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