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HaySam

07-25-2005 10:41:05




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KraigWY did you find the problem on your 214T baler?




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kraigWY-----not really

07-25-2005 18:53:54




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 Re: hay baler problem in reply to HaySam, 07-25-2005 10:41:05  
Mechancally it seems to work fine, nothing seems broke. It works good until the hay piles up, then just creates a cavity the auger runs in, then the knives hammer the bale in the hopper until the tie breaks.

I tightened the clutch on the auger, it works great not, the auger is free floating and not binding anywhere. The pickup tines are working until the baler fills up then just throws hay at the existing pile.

I am totally lost. First cool day in weeks, so I was gonna go out and feed all the busted bales through it, then came a gully washer. I'm about to the point of shooting all the critters.

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Chuck, WA

07-26-2005 14:28:47




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 Re: hay baler problem in reply to kraigWY-----not really, 07-25-2005 18:53:54  
Kraig...Not sure I follow the part about throwing the hay at the existing stack, but my 214WS was having problems with grass hay in fairly light windrows not feeding well. The previous owner had replaced what's called the compressor with a bar and a set of straight 3/8" rods over the throat of the pickup as a protective guard. He baled nothing but wheat straw and felt the compressor just got in the way.

I asked here what the compressor's function was, and folks said about what the manual said - it is used on light hay or thin windrows to help the hay feed properly. Well, on a lark, I took the 3/8" rod fixture off and put the compressor back on. Works like a champ. Even the lightest ends of windrows where it's hardly worth driving over picks up clean.

In case you don't have a compressor, what it amounts to a set of springy flat strap fingers that mount on the bar over the pickup throat, and lay flat on the sheet metal that the pickup tines run between. There's enough springiness to let them rise for a heavy windrow, or stay flat and hold the hay down where the tines can move it into the auger for really light windrows, rather than the hay slipping up and over the tines.

I never would have thought it would make such a difference until I saw it.

My old Ford 503 side-delivery rake works pretty good, but it came with a detached full width reel-like thing that I'm told mounted over the bars, and was turned by a pulley. The previous owner said it "just got in the way" and took it off. I find that the rake will throw the hay up and over in a heavy windrow, and am beginning to understand that maybe the reel-thingy prevents that. I'm beginning to think that maybe folks should understand what some of these "spare parts" are before they take them off. Am thinking about putting it back on the rake and see if it maybe does what the designers intended. :)

Chuck, WA

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TimS

07-26-2005 13:41:53




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 Re: hay baler problem in reply to kraigWY-----not really, 07-25-2005 18:53:54  
If the feeder forks are moving right the only thing I can think of is the auger is broken loose inside somehow and can just spin once the hay puts a load on it. Is the auger spinning in the cavity under the hay or just sitting there?



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07-25-2005 19:57:34




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 Re: hay baler problem in reply to kraigWY-----not really, 07-25-2005 18:53:54  
Packer fork working to feed hay to the plunger head from the auger?



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Loren

07-25-2005 22:40:03




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 Re: hay baler problem in reply to 02, 07-25-2005 19:57:34  
The only time I"ve had this kind of problem is when I"m baling tall, real dry, rye or fecue, or when I have to bale the opposite direction I"ve cut and raked.



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Dave H (MI)

07-25-2005 12:32:08




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 Re: hay baler problem in reply to HaySam, 07-25-2005 10:41:05  
I don't think he ever posted back. Probably got it workin and is baling up a storm. Either that or he is out in the sun and heat with grease up to his armpits cursing up a blue streak. This is the life we've chosen.



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