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Billy NY

07-22-2005 07:38:40




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I've seen several on here recently, in the midwest very inexpensive, and was really interested in them for use on the horse farm, but what I was wondering is, what was the purpose of these originally, assuming they are used to haul light material like grain ?

I've been composting the manure at the place and need an inexpensive means to haul the fresh manure several hundred yards to another location away from the barn so I can work the piles with the loader, would one of these operated from the remote hydraulic of a 33 HP Challenger tip a load of manure off ? Not sure what arrangement would work, but they sure look to fit the bill, as the manure is sawdust based, usually light and I'm on flat ground. I see they have a high center of gravity, so a heaped load may not be a good idea, but even struck, it looks like they hold a fair amount, I've noticed sizes vary. For the prices of what these go for it seems they are inexpensive, I know I really need a single axle dump, but that is what the compost will eventually pay for, and is out of reach at the moment as I need to get a decent one I could run on the road, but thought a dump wagon may do the job in the interim.

Any comments highly appreciated, thanks !

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BradB

07-22-2005 12:25:47




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 Re: Dump Wagons in reply to Billy NY, 07-22-2005 07:38:40  
Sounds like you need a dup trailer to pull with a pick-up or tractor. Mine has double axle and is rated for 7000#. Has its own hydraulic and battery electrical system. Cost around 3500 and no insurance like a single axle would need. I use mine to deliver hay and haul sawdust,stone and whatever.



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RustyFarmall

07-22-2005 10:35:53




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 Re: Dump Wagons in reply to Billy NY, 07-22-2005 07:38:40  
I grew up using those wagons, depending on how heavy a running gear is under it you can haul quite a big load. I purchased a smaller wagon with hoist a few years ago so that I could haul off the broken up concrete floor from the old garage that I had torn down. I pulled the wagon with my Farmall H, about 25 horsepower. I am quite sure that I loaded the wagon much heavier than I should have, but my tractor pulled it just fine, about 2 miles of mostly flat road, and then another 1/2 mile through the neighbors field to get to the ditch that was eroding badly. The field was very steep in places, and then got even worse going over the bank to get to the ideal dumping point. I did have a little trouble with slick grass at one point, but nothing serious. The hydraulics of the H raised the wagon just fine. I now have no need for the wagon, might be for sale.

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ChrisLSD

07-22-2005 09:44:26




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 Re: Dump Wagons in reply to Billy NY, 07-22-2005 07:38:40  
If you are talking about high dump wagons hat I am thinking of they are used behind a silage cutter to hold a fluffy relatively light (think grass clippings) material that is blown in by the silage cutter - then when it is full a truck pulls up and the whole thing lifts up and dumps - i would doubt it would work with even shelled grain but definitely not wih manure

the reason they are cheap in the midwest is because the cheap ones have already been tipped over..... or completely rusted out beyond repair -

these things ar big and heavy

NOW if you are talking just an old barge wagon with a hoist - that is a different story - but still not made for the weight of manure -

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Billy NY

07-22-2005 10:01:58




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 Re: Dump Wagons in reply to ChrisLSD, 07-22-2005 09:44:26  
Barge type wagon was what I was considering, from a glance it seemed possible, but again maybe something custom built on heavier running gear, more suited to the purpose, but no doubt it would be very useful if something of the like would work, which would require enough power to dump off, and stable enough to do so on flat ground. I have not seen what is available new, might be something out there to suit the need. I suspected those were definitely light duty, and not sure how high the body raises. From my days of driving triaxle dumps and working in the sitework field, I know how important it is for the load to come out, especially on the dump trailers. It would be great to find, or be able to modify something to work behind the tractor, or just have to make do until I can get a single axle, which I'm desperately in need of anyways to haul hay, pick up sawdust etc. etc.

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paul

07-22-2005 09:11:29




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 Re: Dump Wagons in reply to Billy NY, 07-22-2005 07:38:40  
You won't dump a full load & have the thing last.....

They hauled grain & some feed, sure beat shoveling it out of the barge box with a scoop shovel. :) Dumped into an elevator. Have been replaced by gravity boxes.

Grain is typically 60 lbs or less per bu. Figure out how much a bu of your manure weighs, and you can figure out how full you can make it. Probably 1/3????

--->Paul



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