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Chick

07-20-2005 19:59:50




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Has anyone had any experience, good or bad, with plastic twine in a New holland 269? Thanks!




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Lance R.

07-22-2005 11:46:49




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to Chick, 07-20-2005 19:59:50  
I have much better luck with plastic but wish I could use sisal because it burns good.



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RickL

07-22-2005 05:18:38




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to Chick, 07-20-2005 19:59:50  
Chick; I run deere 327 and new holland 570 ONLY use poly in both units. Would never go back to string. run 170knot bridon product 7000 ft to single balls. Would not use string if gave to me. Yes you have to keep it picked up,string will also wrap into everything. I don't have much trouble so keeping it picked up is not a problem. All product here is sold so it being in poly has been a plus to my sales, I also sell the poly twine due to demand.

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Hayman

07-22-2005 13:17:14




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to RickL, 07-22-2005 05:18:38  
Rick I got some Bridon 190 in the 7200ft roll. It won't fit into my 320 that holds 6 rolls. It will fit in the 278's but its a really tight fit. Maybe the 175 knot strenght stuff is a shade smaller in size.

The Donaghys 190 in the 7000 ft rolls fits no problem.



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Hayfarmer

07-21-2005 18:42:50




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to Chick, 07-20-2005 19:59:50  
I use a 282 NH baler. In the Northwest I don't think you could find sisel twine anymore. I raise hay to feed and sell. i don't think anyone here woudl buy bales tyed with sisel twine. Different parts of the country are different. The 276 makes a 14X16 bale as mine are 16X18. I liek the plastic but it does hang around. We used wire for years on bales and use a lot of 3 tie bales for export. I have excellent luck with plastic but my baler is adjusted and set up for it. Guess all depends upon what you want to do with it and what you raise the hay for. Think I would also have trouble selling the smaller bales here as truckers like the bigger ones. My 2 tie baler is actually becomeing a rarity here as most have gone to 3 tie and most of the hay is handled by bale wagons and then a squeeze is used to stack in barns. If you got o plastic I think you will need to at least adjust it differntly and you may need new bill hooks also.

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Chick

07-23-2005 19:16:55




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to Hayfarmer, 07-21-2005 18:42:50  
What kind of adjustments might be neccessary if I tried plastic? Also, a couple of you mentioned bill hook replacement. Is there a special type of bill hook for plastic? This is the first I have ever heard of bill hook replacement for plastic. Thanks guys.



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TGIN

07-21-2005 02:39:59




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to Chick, 07-20-2005 19:59:50  
We used it one time 10 -15 yrs. ago and I still find it laying around , it wont go away !!



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paul

07-20-2005 22:30:59




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to Chick, 07-20-2005 19:59:50  
My understanding is you need to make some adjustments & tensioning changes, but should work ok.

No one near me wants plastic twine on small squares, so no experience from around these parts. Yuk on the plastic.

--->Paul



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Chick

07-20-2005 22:24:20




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to Chick, 07-20-2005 19:59:50  
I appreciate all feedback, even about other balers. I worked at a MF dealership in the '70s, and we did not have a lot of luck with the plastic twine then. MF plastic twine was made up of a bunch of monofiliment line, with a rough red plastic strip, which spiraled around the monofiliment. The rough red plastic strip, was suppose to allow the knotters to grip the plastic better. It worked ok in the round balers, but we never made it work in the MF 124. Thanks!

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Hayman

07-20-2005 21:35:18




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to Chick, 07-20-2005 19:59:50  
We used sisal for 25 years in our NH balers then switched to plastic in around 2000. I found the plastic 9000 was not as strong as the 9000 sisal. It tied alright just the strings would break so easy. Now I use a 190 knot strength plastic and a 175lb knot strenght twine. Both work good in our vintage NH balers.



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Hayman

07-20-2005 21:33:54




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to Chick, 07-20-2005 19:59:50  
We used sisal for 25 years in our NH balers then switched to plastic in around 2000. I found the plastic 9000 was not as strong as the 9000 sisal. It tied alright just the strings would break so easy. Now I use a 190 knot strength plastic and a 175lb knot strenght twine. Both work good in our vintage NH balers.



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edchainsaw

07-20-2005 20:09:22




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to Chick, 07-20-2005 19:59:50  
have had good luck for over 30yrs with plastic but not in a new holland--we have a deere



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mike brown

07-21-2005 03:26:34




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to edchainsaw, 07-20-2005 20:09:22  
I used plastic years ago when I had a twine baler (JD214) and liked it . I had to put special bill hooks in the knotter . i could bale as heavy as with wire. i switched to wire because the hay haulers said they like it better but I don't like it . I'd rather use plastic.



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Illinois Boy

07-21-2005 13:02:17




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 Re: sisal versus plastic in reply to mike brown, 07-21-2005 03:26:34  
My Ford 532 likes sisal - will do plastic but "misses a lick" every now and then. No problems at all with the sisal twine...



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