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NH 326 or the NH 570 /575??

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Hayman

07-19-2005 10:54:18




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Been looking around a bit for another baler.

Local dealer has a NH326 on the lot that would probably sell reasonable as it needs some TLC to get back into field ready condition.

How does the feed rack system stand up on the 326?? It all looks orginal on this baler except for the feeder tracks which have been replaced recently.

Don't they still this system now on the 565?? Looks much simpler then the older 320 style. Also it has a metal tube instead of aluminum. I always wondered if a metal square tube would work in the 320 feed rack??? Wouldn't be hard to make one up and put it together. I've made the 320 aluminum finger bar from aluminum square tube stock already.

Or should a one just wait it out for one the newer generation 570-575 balers??? What year did they come out and what kind of problems was there with them??? As if I went this route I'd probably looking to get an older one etc.

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RickL

07-19-2005 17:27:06




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 Re: NH 326 or the NH 570 /575?? in reply to Hayman, 07-19-2005 10:54:18  
I used to run a 327 Jd was excellent baler wish still had it anyway now have a 570 as it has wider pickup and more strokes. I would only go for the 570 since it has packer fork,got some straw last week came out 270 series and were banana again. anyway the 570 is much more picky than the deere ever was. It has to be kept full for uniformity to be better. The faster plunger speed I found made no difference in uniformity like I was told,nor does hyd tension. I did put the chamber extension on my unit as I run accumulator system. My biggest problem with this unit is being able to make consisitent size bales at 50lbs or close. Everything was coming out 80lbs or more and my market does not want them that heavy and I don't either as I sell by the number count. I have now pretty well have it dialed in now after some modifications and baling speed changes. As example if you do large windrows for large round bales you will bale the same windrow with the 570. just got done baling behind 25ft and 30ft combine heads and thats the windrows it likes. I feel the auger feed of the JD is a more uniform pressed down feed than the 570 is but in slick straw it is the limiting factor also,the 570 in straw conditions is not held up in that area,is much more aggressive,make sure you have the grass kit in the pickup thou on the 570. After you learn it it will bale thou. I always use 170 or 210 knot strength poly in my unit. let me know if I get be of further help baling again tomorrow, Here is another example also just finished baling rye straw,was almost head high tall and I combine it like I do soybeans shave the ground with 15ft head and Iwas running 3rd and 4th gear in 4450.

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Hayman

07-20-2005 00:23:41




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 Re: NH 326 or the NH 570 /575?? in reply to RickL, 07-19-2005 17:27:06  
I know a fellow with some 575's and they run them Bale Skis plastic liners in them. The liners some how aid in making nice uniform firm 50 lb or so bales for thier market.

I make my bales around the 50-60lb range with my old NH balers. Banana shaped bales are not really an issue. If your driving the correct speed for the swath. My 278's are very in good in this area unless your really over feeding them. I bale swaths that would give many balers grief. My 320 will do it once and a while if your under feeding it. But nothing to worry about still makes good bales for picking. Them JD grates seemed to have elimintated the problem.

You may want to try a set of those JD restrictor grates in the front of the chamber. I stuck a set on to try on the 320. Makes a differance in real dry conditions it seems in making nice even dense bales. So I stuck sets in my other 2 balers for the heck of it and will test them out in a few days. I'll run a few thousand bales throught them. That will be a good test.

JD, Hesston, and MF use them maybe more. Don't know why NH never did.

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RickL

07-22-2005 05:08:38




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 Re: NH 326 or the NH 570 /575?? in reply to Hayman, 07-20-2005 00:23:41  
Hayman; I am getting the 570 dialed in now. Did you bolt the grates in or what on your unit. It is just more picky in the feeding but yes I do large windrows also. Just finished another 500 plus in short afternoon.



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Hayman

07-22-2005 07:33:30




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 Re: NH 326 or the NH 570 /575?? in reply to RickL, 07-22-2005 05:08:38  
Yes I removed the front wedges then mounted the JD grates as close to the front as possible. I Just looked over a JD baler in the lot and seen how they did it. I had to drill new holes for the grates which was a little tricky. After 3 balers though I'm getting good at it!

I've baled about 5000 bales on the 320 this season and it seems to be working really good. It was the most noticeable in the super dry, hard to compact hay. True test will be with all the balers running the grates and more difficult baling conditions. I have another 16K aprox. of bales to make this 1st cut. Then I'll give my observations on if they make enough of a differance to justify putting them in. I have pictures of it but I don't think you can post them on here.

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RickL

07-22-2005 05:08:21




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 Re: NH 326 or the NH 570 /575?? in reply to Hayman, 07-20-2005 00:23:41  
Hayman; I am getting the 570 dialed in now. Did you bolt the grates in or what on your unit. It is just more picky in the feeding but yes I do large windrows also. Just finished another 500 plus in short afternoon.



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RickB

07-19-2005 12:07:33




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 Re: NH 326 or the NH 570 /575?? in reply to Hayman, 07-19-2005 10:54:18  
565-570-575 balers came out in 1988. If I was going to make a fair amount of square bales but needed to buy a used baler, I would look for a 570 or 575. Feeder on the 326 is more durable than the 320. 570 and 575 are alike in plunger sped and throat area. Differ in pickup width, knotter style and knotter shaft diameter, and the 575 has adjustable doors on the chamber a la Deere. The 72 belt thrower on the 500's is better than the 70 found on 300's, although there is a small group of 72's which use metric bearings on the rolls. Many of these have been upgraded to 1 1/8" rolls and bearings by now.

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Hayman

07-19-2005 16:04:27




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 Re: NH 326 or the NH 570 /575?? in reply to RickB, 07-19-2005 12:07:33  
We make 30K to 40K a year of bales and use a self propelled balewagon. So a thrower gizmo is not a factor.

Have heard different feed back on the 575's in that they like to be kept pretty full in order to make nice bales. I know that goes for all balers in general etc. However my vintage balers I run now a couple 278's and a 320 are able to make a decent bale for picking in light swaths and heavy ones. Our second cut can be light and in our climate we rarely rake the swaths together.

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RickB

07-19-2005 16:49:50




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 Re: NH 326 or the NH 570 /575?? in reply to Hayman, 07-19-2005 16:04:27  
Bale consistency can be challenging in light crop with the 570 & 575, there really is little difference between the two on that score. A couple guys whose balers I service have gotten into the bale wagon system, and it has continues to be a learning experience for all of us. I think with either a 575 or 570, you will be able to adjust the PTO speed/ground speed ratio to keep a consistent stroke per bale count and consistent bales. You may have to work at it differently at first than you do now, though.

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Hayman

07-19-2005 20:10:26




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 Re: NH 326 in reply to RickB, 07-19-2005 16:49:50  
Rick regarding the 326 unit. I noticed it doesn't have any kind of spring set up with the feed forks.

Does this cause a problem with broken tines on the left feed side of the bar?? The one I looked at has a different set up on the left tines unlike the older aluminum versions like on the 320. Does the 565 feed sysetm have the same set up no spring action??



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