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Loren

07-12-2005 22:04:27




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Is 12-14 mph a common speed for raking? Didn't want to lug the engine in 6th on the 300U so I was running about 3rd notch down from full out in 5th but wish I had a 5th and a half gear! LOL




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Don-Wi

07-13-2005 21:50:36




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 Re: Raking speed. in reply to Loren, 07-12-2005 22:04:27  
I've gone in 2nd(5th) gear w/ the multi-power up on our 165 raking hay, full bore. It goes about 25 on the road in 3rd gear, so I'd say it goes atleast 12 in 2nd. Now we've got the loader on that tractor, so we use our 285 which is a slightly rougher ride and we can't stand up while driving as much, so I have to throttle down some, but still go in 2nd, about 1500 rpm.
Donovan from Wisconsin



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Loren

07-13-2005 22:29:24




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 Re: Raking speed. in reply to Don-Wi, 07-13-2005 21:50:36  
Is the 165 really smoother riding than the 285? What do you attribute that to?



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Don-Wi

07-14-2005 20:04:07




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 Re: Raking speed. in reply to Loren, 07-13-2005 22:29:24  
Most of it is lighter weight and softer tires. The 285 we have them a little harder because the back end ussually has more weight loaded on it. The front tires are also harder because we've got 5 weights hanging on the front. The 165 we had to put some weights on to keep the front down, and slightly softer tires before the loader was mounted. It was the best tractor for raking hay and we used it once or twice when we had to on the baler. We can also stand while driveing the 165 and still get the pedals because they get pushed down, where as the 285's pivots forward so you have to sit down before you can push in the clutch.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Loren

07-13-2005 18:39:05




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 Realized today I made another fact error. in reply to Loren, 07-12-2005 22:04:27  
That would be, 7-9 mph, since I was in 4th. Almost dark last night when I was thinking about how well it was going and I looked at the 5th gear speed scale at 13. On most of the field I could have run a lot faster but the terror of the "hidden bump" kept me docile. Allan's right. Took the Sitrex wheel rake I had and rebuilt the thing to a hyd. lift trailer rig last spring. Works SOOOOO much better. Once in a while I'd hit just enough bump that it'd throw a wild windrow but most all the time it did excellent, for a wheel rake. :>)

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R. John Johnson

07-13-2005 07:31:30




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 Re: Raking speed. in reply to Loren, 07-12-2005 22:04:27  
We can really fly when we are raking native hay up here in Manitoba. These fields have never seen any sort of tillage equipment and are very smooth. We rake with a Vicon 9 wheel rake. One pass covers about 1 and a half swaths from a 9 foot mower. We pull the rake with a JD 2755 in 7th gear, high/lo in high and 3/4 throttle. You can really cover ground like that, but I think our situation here is rather unique.

John

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Illinois Boy

07-13-2005 07:11:11




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 Re: Raking speed. in reply to Loren, 07-12-2005 22:04:27  
A little to fasrt for me - I never get out of 2nd at about 1/2 throttle.
Must be "parking lot level" ground you"re working...



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paul

07-13-2005 07:04:19




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 Re: Raking speed. in reply to Loren, 07-12-2005 22:04:27  
What type of rake are you using? While a wheel rake might funtion at that speed, any other type will blow apart on you, even if you can hang onto the tractor at that speed....

Use 4th all the time on my IHC 300. I occationally use 5th (hi) on my Ford 960, but they have a pretty slow hi gear & I do not use much throttle at all.

Can't imaging having fields level enough to handle that speed, and the rake will be tossing the hay a good distance, not making a nice windrow. You might want to think if you are trying to do a good job farming; or work for a drag strip.....

--->Paul

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jason zang

07-31-2005 13:11:46




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 Re: Raking speed. in reply to paul, 07-13-2005 07:04:19  
raking the hill ground here in PA i use 4th with my farmall m and a 8' NI rake without any problems. the m has a low speed 4th in it that is just fast enough for raking small fields where manueverability is an issue.



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Joe(TX)

07-13-2005 05:16:28




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 Re: Raking speed. in reply to Loren, 07-12-2005 22:04:27  
12-14 mph? That would be in road gear wide open. How could you stay in the seat in the field at that speed? Way too fast. The windrows would be pretty ragged.



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Allan in NE

07-13-2005 05:42:29




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 Re: Raking speed. in reply to Joe(TX), 07-13-2005 05:16:28  
Hey Joe,

Yep, pretty fast, but I'll betcha he is using a wheel rake. They can move along a little faster.

Allan



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txgrn

07-13-2005 06:45:01




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 Re: Raking speed. in reply to Allan in NE, 07-13-2005 05:42:29  
Hey Allan,

I had one once and went back to the side discharge parallel bar. Most of my hay is stemmy and tough and the wheel can't handle it. And the wind blows here all the time and if I'm doing bermuda, the wind blows it up against the wheel and it stays there; obviously not raking but making a mess.

Got a custom baler neighbor that bales all over so he has to have things that travel well on the highway. So he got a Vee setup wheel rig which packs nicely behind him on the road.

But in the field it makes horrible windrows; hay sticking up and clotted and all; don't know how the baler can eat it as it is so high and ragged....but he gets her done.

Mark

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Jimmy King

07-13-2005 02:15:50




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 Re: Raking speed. in reply to Loren, 07-12-2005 22:04:27  
When I was a boy we used an H and Super A, raking speed was wide open in 3rd on the Super A and 4th on the H. When I quit farming in 1997, I was using a 495 NH haybine and raking with a 258 and 260 NH rakes. I pulled them with a 460D in 4th at 1000 to 1200 RPM. I could rake about 13 to 14 acres an hour.



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Loren

07-12-2005 22:06:35




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 Correction. in reply to Loren, 07-12-2005 22:04:27  
That was 4th and 5th, didn't get the "special" trans with this one. :>)



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