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Looking at a big square baler

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Seth_ia

07-11-2005 14:10:23




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I am thinking about taking the plunge and buying a big square baler. I am sure hoping that atleast a couple of you might know something about them. I found a 1997 JD 100 big square baler for $22,500. It has had about 30,000 bales through it. It"s a one owner machine. It looks like it is in pretty good shape. Does this sound like a good deal? Any have any experience with this model or know any wear points that I sure look at?

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Cliff Neubauer

07-12-2005 10:33:39




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 Re: Looking at a big square baler in reply to Seth_ia, 07-11-2005 14:10:23  
From what I've heard the JD does struggle to make a consistant sized bale. I'm only about 25 miles from JD's hay equipment factory and for the past couple of years they have had a Hesston and now a NH big square baler sitting out back so I bet the will be reentering that market soon with a copied baler.



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Hound

07-11-2005 20:24:58




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 Re: Looking at a big square baler in reply to Seth_ia, 07-11-2005 14:10:23  
Over here, I think the insides of the jds100 are actually Vicons. (almost a 2 man job to change the shear bolts).

Like mentioned already, one of the early big square balers made, so no stuffer chamber. The early new hollands were like that also. In light and uneven windrows the bales would come out like bananas.

The precharge chamber is filled first, then that quanity is then slide up into the bale chamber where the plunger strokes. This way every slice is uniform.

Around here the old caseih's 8570 seem reasonable, even some 8575's. The new generation has really kicked them. The new ones have a chopper kit, better pick ups and heavier all alround. Hound

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Roy in UK

07-11-2005 15:08:55




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 Re: Looking at a big square baler in reply to Seth_ia, 07-11-2005 14:10:23  
I am willing to be corrected but I think the JD big square balers were in fact built by Krone and painted in JD livery. I also think that Deere no longer market them as such. Here in UK the Krone big square baler is not rated very highly compared to say, a Hesston or a Claas Quadrant.



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RickB

07-11-2005 16:44:43




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 Re: Looking at a big square baler in reply to Roy in UK, 07-11-2005 15:08:55  
Note I said "sold by" not "Built by". The 100 is a Krone as far as I know. I didn't want any of the Deere faithful to know that mother Deere outsources wholegoods just like the rest of the industry from time to time.



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RickB

07-11-2005 15:06:07




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 Re: Looking at a big square baler in reply to Seth_ia, 07-11-2005 14:10:23  
The 100 was the only big baler sold by a major player WITHOUT a stuffer chamber to pre-size the charge of hay entering the chamber. Deere quit selling the 100 a year or two ago and is now out of the big baler market. If your crop is going to be in VERY consistent windrows, you probably won't miss a stuffer and its extra moving parts. If not, you may have trouble filling the top of the bale in certain conditions.

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Seth_ia

07-11-2005 21:15:03




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 Re: Looking at a big square baler in reply to RickB, 07-11-2005 15:06:07  
Mostly I plan on baling alfalfa and alfalfa/grass. I don't have near enough acres to justify the machine and would plan on doing custom work. If I told a customer to make a big windrow, would that be good enough(say 3 or 4 ft wide and 1.5 to 2 foot tall)? What do you all think of the price?



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Roy in UK

07-11-2005 15:12:29




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 Re: Looking at a big square baler in reply to RickB, 07-11-2005 15:06:07  
Yeah that was the problem, I was watching a Krone big baler in action last year and to be honest the bales are not as "tidy" as those produced by say a Hesston, Claas or New Holland.



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Ken Macfarlane

07-12-2005 05:41:29




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 Re: Looking at a big square baler in reply to Roy in UK, 07-11-2005 15:12:29  
How many lbs in one of the those big bales? 30,000 bales on something that big seems like a fair amount of use. Note I have no experience with them, there is only one in our area.

Ken



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Kent in NB

07-13-2005 17:01:43




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 Re: Looking at a big square baler in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 07-12-2005 05:41:29  
Hello Ken. My neighbor has a NH big sq. baler. It may be the one you are talking about. It has done over 70,000 bales as of this past week. Still working good and is going to be available at the end of this season. I beleive we are just around the bend in the river from you. Wish it would stop raining!



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Kent in NB

07-14-2005 16:22:32




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 Re: Looking at a big square baler in reply to Kent in NB, 07-13-2005 17:01:43  
That is the machine! We are just down the road, across from the Apple Co-op. Stop in and say Hello.



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Ken Macfarlane

07-14-2005 05:42:57




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 Re: Looking at a big square baler in reply to Kent in NB, 07-13-2005 17:01:43  
Kent, the one I know of is/was owned by larry jewett on Keswick Ridge. He used it for shipping hay in those cow-tainers.

No one else seems interested as they all wrap silage and don't have indoor storage for hay anymore...



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