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glenshoe

07-09-2005 13:27:02




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I'm looking at two J.D. 1219 mower conditioners near my home. Both look to be in good to very good condition except for a few issues. One has a slightly bent upper roller (about 1/4 inch bow in the middle). The other has a slight weep of oil from the seal at the upper pulley coming out of the main gearbox. Both have very straight cutters, stub guards, and new bolt-on sections. The one with the bent roller is listed at $3000 but I don't know how much the other one will bring at auction this week. My thought is to wait and see how cheaply I could get the one at auction. But if I don't get that one, how much bend can you put up with on the rollers? How much work is it to replace the seal on the other one? Also, how much tension should there be between the rollers? One has very high tension (rollers pressing together very tightly). The other one has a slight gap between the rollers although the "tread" or bars still inter-leave. Any ideas or suggestions?

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txgrn

07-10-2005 05:59:55




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 Re: haybine questions in reply to glenshoe, 07-09-2005 13:27:02  
Bought my second 1209 this winter. Had a NH 489 and hated it primarily due to it's enclosed driveshaft and hard turning when converting from road position to field position.

The leak is easy.....leave it be and add oil...or taking the side cover off is no problem but your shaft seals are probably what's worn and that is another story.

The rollers should mesh evenly and they should not touch. Their timing and spacing are adjustable. The actual spacing is determined by you, your hay crop, and how much conditioning (stem smashing) you want. You don't want too much or you'll tear up your leaves; too little and you don't smash the stems and drying is prolonged on stemmy crops. If you are doing bermuda grass you don't need the crimp.

You should be able to rotate the machines with a large screwdriver inserted in the driveshaft yoke and moderate hand pressure. If it won't do that something is amiss. It should rotate quietly and smoothly.

The bent roller will wobble, rumble and give you uneven conditioning. Again if using small stem crops, you don't care about conditioning.

I have the hydraulic piston for position control. Really handy, but you need dual remotes to run it.

I paid $1500 for mine and had to do nothing but service it. Thought it was high, but now that I have used it several times, it is a good deal.

HTH

Mark

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RickB

07-09-2005 17:06:14




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 Re: haybine questions in reply to glenshoe, 07-09-2005 13:27:02  
I would not gamble 3 grand on a bent roll. Especially on a 1219 which is popular to some but I think anything but NH is brand X. The other question about roll pressure. On most machines, roll gap and roll pressure are two separate adjustments. On NH machines, rolls should not touch, I bet Deere spec is the similar.



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