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MF 124 Baler needles

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KEH

07-01-2005 17:12:40




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Some time ago someone posted about help for his new to him MF124 and I tried to help him from the manual from my new to me MF124. I think he had better luck than me! I tried baling with mine and the knotter drive chain broke and the new needles from previous owner were bent. Just got it back from dealer and now I have new needles and new knotter drive chain with the baler retimed. What we decided happened was that the knotter drive chain had an idler pulley instead of an idler sprocket and the pulley was too wide for the #40 chain, allowing it to move sideways and jump off the drive sproket. The needles were in the bale chamber and as the plunger came back it pushed hay against the needles, bending them, then hitting the plunger stop and breaking the shear bolt. Since the dealer did not have a sproket, he put a pulley on for the idler, but used a narrow one that does not allow the chain sideways movement. I hope the baler works and mention all this so other MF 124 baler owners have these problems they can have the benefit of my expensive lesson. I now have about double the purchase price in the baler. Needed Allan to find these bargain priced pieces of equipment.

KEH

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Joe(TX)

07-02-2005 16:57:09




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 Re: MF 124 Baler needles in reply to KEH, 07-01-2005 17:12:40  
I don' think that was the cause.
It does not matter how wide the idler is. The teeth on the sprockets keep it aligned. A loose or stretched chain would cause the problem especially on a worn sprocket.
I have not seen needles bend, only break. At least on my balers. Did you keep the old needles and compare them to the new ones?



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KEH

07-03-2005 04:25:28




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 Re: MF 124 Baler needles in reply to Joe(TX), 07-02-2005 16:57:09  
Joe, The old chain was definitely worn out and was replaced. The ider pulley is welded together with a groove in the middle where the two sections are put together. The chain was riding in the groove on one side of the chain and the other side was up against the rim on the other side. The needles are part forging and part pressed steel welded together and the steel is what bent. The dealer was turning the bale over by hand after timing it and the old chain jumped off. Thanks for reply. KEH

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