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Sleepless in Oh

06-30-2005 21:10:37




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I need some advice on what to do about 80 acres of alfalfa I planted last year. I owned the 80 acres for the past 18 years. Last year my farmer who I rented to decided to retire. I decided to buy a tractor, plow my ground and plant alfalfa. The reason I chose alfalfa was there is a alfalfa mill close by who would harvest the crop. Well the 1st cutting has not happened yet and I do not know when it will happen. I need to make plans to take it off myself. I have no hay making equipment. I do have my 1466 International tractor 130 hp that only has 1000 pto my other tractor is 3414 international loader gas 40hp with the 540 pto. I have very limited funds for this equipment but I plan on using it for at least 5 years. Any thougts or suggestions would be very helpful.

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John S-B

07-01-2005 15:57:38




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to Sleepless in Ohio, 06-30-2005 21:10:37  
Hey Sleepless, what part of Oh. are you in? I know a few guys that do hay, maybe if you are near they could help get you started.



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Sleepless in Ohio

07-01-2005 16:53:50




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to John S-B, 07-01-2005 15:57:38  
I am located East of toledo just south of Lake Erie.



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Phil/PA

07-01-2005 11:05:25




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to Sleepless in Ohio, 06-30-2005 21:10:37  
80 acres is a lot of hay!! If you don"t have the equipment now then I don"t think you are going to have time to get the equipment and harvest the first cutting in a timely manner, especially if funds are limited as they always are.

I would look for a neighbor who is willing to do it on shares. If possible help him, you will learn a lot about equipment, how everything works, and the process if you are out there helping someone. When I first started haying I was helping a friend, after raking half the day he reached in his wallet and offered to pay me. I told him knowledge was all the pay I needed and believe me, it has paid off over the years. I"m still learning as it is a constant learning process but what I learned from helping others has paid off many times over.

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Sleepless in Ohio

07-02-2005 09:10:16




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to Phil/PA, 07-01-2005 11:05:25  
Phil/Pa
Thanks for the response. I agree I will just let this year take its course. Hopefully I will be ready next year after I do a lot of homework and reading on this web site. With the amount of hay I need to bale in the future what equipment would you use. In the future I can step-up and lay out some serious dollars for equipment. I try to buy the best for my safety and the people working with me.

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Dave H (MI)

07-01-2005 06:46:37




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to Sleepless in Ohio, 06-30-2005 21:10:37  
If I was going to start haying, i would start on 10 acres not 80. Phew.....



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rwood

07-01-2005 06:16:34




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to Sleepless in Ohio, 06-30-2005 21:10:37  
Hellofrom Sleepless in CT. I bought some haying equipment last year to use this summer, including a NH 315 baler from Rath in Canada. Turns out the baler must have sat around unused for quite a spell and forgot how it was supposed to work. The NH tech who work on the exploded pto u-joint said he had to chisel apart the clutch plates on the bench in order to put in the replacements. Things were actually welded together (I have one of the plates in the shop as a souvenir) with deep cups where it was rusted the worst.
No amount of backing off on the adjusting bolts, spinning the clutch to shine up the plates would seemed to have worked. Tough lesson. Pick-up clutch seems OK, though. Go figure. Cavet emptor, as the Romans said: "Let the buyer beware."

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wolfman

07-02-2005 17:54:16




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to rwood, 07-01-2005 06:16:34  
What's the story on all the "new" New Holland equipment that has been sitting outside in Canada for two or three years?



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RickL

07-01-2005 05:46:50




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to Sleepless in Ohio, 06-30-2005 21:10:37  
let me know as I have all sorts of hay equipmentr for sale in the used line. With that large field definetly would go with disc/mow conditoner and wheel rake. You said Mill harvest it,didn't quite follow that then why are you doing it. You will find out like previous post said it will be more time involved than you even realize. wish it was mine as i need more hay acres now as small bales are my specialty.

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Sleepless in Ohio

07-01-2005 17:08:44




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to RickL, 07-01-2005 05:46:50  
Rick
To answer your question I do not have a contract with the mill. The mill has no obligations to me about the # of cuttings. I do not like the postion I am in, without my own abilty to remove the alfalfa myself if the mill is running behind schudle. I want to get 3 cuttings but i dont think that will be possible now. Where is your equipment located?



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RickL

07-01-2005 19:09:03




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to Sleepless in Ohio, 07-01-2005 17:08:44  
it is located in southeast Iowa. You tell me your dollar range and I can try match you up with some. Allthough for those amount acres you are going to want some better stuff in my experience.



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paul

06-30-2005 23:56:26




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to Sleepless in Ohio, 06-30-2005 21:10:37  
80 acres of alfalfa, 3 cuttings a year, you are looking at some serious hay. Round bales I would hope, where are you going to sell them?

You need a pretty good mower conditioner, a rake (for rolling to dry or wet times) and a baler. You will need to spend some money on that equipment.

Then you need a way to move all the bales. That takes time & equipment too.

--->Paul



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Ken Macfarlane

07-01-2005 13:16:39




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 Re: Hay making Equipment in reply to paul, 06-30-2005 23:56:26  
I know someone who does the same acreage or alf-alfa 3 times a year with a 42 pto hp Kubota diesel.

He drags a 12 ft cut mower-conditioner. Rakes with a NH rollabar behind a 4wheeler usually. Bales almost all of it with a 4x4 NH round baler. Does a few squares with kicker wagons.

The kubota has a quick detach loader for loading and he happens to also run a trucking company. He has to borrow a bigger tractor to get the top row of bales on the truck.

The big mower cuts something like 7 acres an hour. He is looking to move to a bigger tractor and disc mower to save time.

You can buy 1000 pto mowers and round balers. Tractor is a bit big but hey a neighbour bales small squares with a 90 pto hp machine just to have his AC and cab.

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