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Hay Wagon Wheel Bearing Part 2

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Joe in IN

06-29-2005 22:22:34




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Ok so a hammer and a screwdriver got the outside bearing off. I tried pulling the wheel/hub off.. no luck... I looked in and the inside bearing wasn"t in good shape. So I managed to pull 10 of the little metal rollers out and one piece of metal about an inch long.. The hub still will not come off....

CaseyC said something about a seal. What seal?

The wheel should just pop off now shouldn"t it? Should I get the sledge out and just wack away... FYI I think theoutside bearing was a Timken(sp?)

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Leroy

07-01-2005 05:15:25




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 Re: Hay Wagon Wheel Bearing Part 2 in reply to Joe in IN, 06-29-2005 22:22:34  
Pull a good wheel off and wash it up and then you can see what you should have in the bad one and you need to clean up and regrease all of them or you are going to have that same problem with the others



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Don-Wi

06-30-2005 21:12:01




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 Re: Hay Wagon Wheel Bearing Part 2 in reply to Joe in IN, 06-29-2005 22:22:34  
There is a seal on the back side of the hub to keep the dirt out. Some go in easier than others. Same is true for removal. I would try a puller before just pounding w/ a hammer. If nothing else, the seal should come out if the bearing is in fact that bad. If you use an angle grinder to cut at the bearing once the hub is off, be carefull no to go too deep. If you do, don't panic about a little knick in the spindle's finish as a little damage ain't gonna hurt, but if you do a little too much w/ a torch you may do a lot more damage that can't be fixed very easily.
Take your time, and it should all come apart.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Calif. Farmall

06-30-2005 02:05:04




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 Re: Hay Wagon Wheel Bearing Part 2 in reply to Joe in IN, 06-29-2005 22:22:34  
You may have welded the bearing center onto the axle by keeping it turning after it ran out of grease. It can be fixed if you are carefull! The seal may be the only thing keeping the hub from comming off and you can hit the hub from the back side but dont go crazy and tear things up. If you have to, rent a puller or slide hammer however it should come off with a few carefull hits. The next trick is getting the bearing center off the axle and hopefully it's just rust and you can tap it off with a punch,I have had to get some red hot! Don't forget to pound out the races in the hub you will need them to get the #s to find replacements as well as the seal. If your not sure what it's supposed to look like all the parts are just like old car & truck front wheel bearings except for the outer dust cap. Pound in the new races into the hub, grease the inner bearing and tap on the seal after you set the inner bearing in the hub. You can buy cheap bearing & seal installer tools if the bearings aren't to big. Also clean any rust or marks off the axle before you try to slide the new bearings onto it as they should go on easy with no pounding, test them before you put them in the hub. After you get it back together tighten the big nut just snug and back it off a 1/8th to a 1/4 but the hub shouldn't flop around. If all else fails get someone over who has done a few of these or Email me. DAN Calif. Farmall

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Calif. Farmall

06-30-2005 02:04:35




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 Re: Hay Wagon Wheel Bearing Part 2 in reply to Joe in IN, 06-29-2005 22:22:34  
You may have welded the bearing center onto the axle by keeping it turning after it ran out of grease. It can be fixed if you are carefull! The seal may be the only thing keeping the hub from comming off and you can hit the hub from the back side but dont go crazy and tear things up. If you have to, rent a puller or slide hammer however it should come off with a few carefull hits. The next trick is getting the bearing center off the axle and hopefully it's just rust and you can tap it off with a punch,I have had to get some red hot! Don't forget to pound out the races in the hub you will need them to get the #s to find replacements as well as the seal. If your not sure what it's supposed to look like all the parts are just like old car & truck front wheel bearings except for the outer dust cap. Pound in the new races into the hub, grease the inner bearing and tap on the seal after you set the inner bearing in the hub. You can buy cheap bearing & seal installer tools if the bearings aren't to big. Also clean any rust or marks off the axle before you try to slide the new bearings onto it as they should go on easy with no pounding, test them before you put them in the hub. After you get it back together tighten the big nut just snug and back it off a 1/8th to a 1/4 but the hub shouldn't flop around. If all else fails get someone over who has done a few of these or Email me. DAN Calif. Farmall

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