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follow up on JD 71 planters

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mikeinWA

06-26-2005 22:04:55




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Thanks Indy & Riverbend for the advice on these planters. I am going to check them out Tues. I know Riverbend really likes these and does some similar planting. Sounds like Indy is a real fan too. I put the Planet Jrs together because they are relatively inexpensive and real easy to change plates and seeds. Today was pretty typical for us and we planted four varieties of beans, three of lettuce, two of bunching onions, two of carrots, and two of beets. That's alot of changing plates and made the Stanhay seeders real expensive when considering belts and pelleting. The only crops we seed in large blocks are peas, beans, corn, and squash.

We are certified organic. One of the most challenging aspects of this is that we cannot spray down before planting. We plow, disk, then till. In a wet year, like this one, we cannot get ahead and end up planting into marginal ground. Maybe cloddy, maybe some grass residue. There is nothing worse than stopping the tractor every 20 feet or even less to clean the seeders. Local commodities farmers run maxemerge and big JDs, I really envy their stands of corn. Their seeders have a similar system for opening the ground to the 71s. Hoping the 71s will solve some problems for us, allow us to plant into these conditions more easily, and save us from thinning corn.

Riverbend, you mentioned getting another unit if they are real cheap. Whats real cheap? These where taken on trade at a local dealership so I expect to pay a bit more than private sale. Shipping and buying sight unseen is not really my cup of tea, and the 71s where never a real popular planter around here.

Thanks fellas
Mike Peroni

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riverbend

06-27-2005 17:44:58




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 Re: follow up on JD 71 planters in reply to mikeinWA, 06-26-2005 22:04:55  
Too bad about the excess rain. We are getting a shower right now. It has made some of our planting a little touch and go too. At least the weather is warm.

I have a four row (9" centers) for greens and radishes and a two row for corn and beans. I like the 71s (70s in my case) because they are easy to set up for various seeds.

It sounds like you are thinking of planting corn and beans with yours. Get corn plates that fit your seed and fiddle the sprockets to get the spacing right. Without too much effort you can get one corn seed every 6, 8, or 12 inches.

If your green bean seed is all relatively uniformly sized, you can use a soybean plate and adjust the gearing to get 8 seeds per foot pretty easily. I want to find the right set of plates so I can leave the gearing the same and plant sweet corn, green beans, peas and shell beans.

It sounds like we are in the same boat. On Father's Day, neighbor Marty and I plowed down some flowering yellow blossom sweet cover and hairy vetch mix. What a mess. It wanted to plug up as soon as we dropped the plows. Once we got going, it was not too bad. I pulled out the gobs that were the size of hay bales with the field cultivator and disked it. This past Sunday I planted soybeans for a green manure crop. The 70s never missed a beat. The openers work great.

The worst stuff is old eggplant roots. They get caught on the covering arms, but even that does not cause too much trouble.

I paid $650 for a nine row set up, and some of them were not the best. Also, they are model 70 units. If you can get decent units for $175 each, you might not need any parts. It has been mostly the little parts that I have needed. Once they are working, the only thing that I have bought was depth bands.

Greg

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mikeinWA

06-27-2005 23:32:52




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 Re: follow up on JD 71 planters in reply to riverbend, 06-27-2005 17:44:58  
I cannot begin to explain the challenges we have faced this year weather wise, equipment wise etc. The most challenging thing about farming to me is this; you might have experience, you might have good equipment, you might work hard with the best intentions and still..... ..... ..

I remember your input this winter about seeder choices. Great advice. Thanks for the posts on these 71s. As luck would have it these seeders(8 gang) have been sitting at the dealer for two months. I called on them friday, called again to confirm today and the dealer sold all but two or three over the weekend, guess I'll check out the runts of the litter. But wait, theres more. He has new ones for a mere $985/row.
All the best,
Mike

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riverbend

06-28-2005 05:33:53




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 Re: follow up on JD 71 planters in reply to mikeinWA, 06-27-2005 23:32:52  
I know what you mean. Wouldn't it be great to have a year when everything worked and the weather was 'normal'? Good luck on the planters and the rest of the year.

Greg



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Indydirtfarmer

06-27-2005 03:12:34




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 Re: follow up on JD 71 planters in reply to mikeinWA, 06-26-2005 22:04:55  
Until 4 years ago, I used #71 units to plant almost 400 acres of corn every year. I had 4 rows mounted on the back and saddle tanks on my tractor for fertilizer. Made a nice, compact, and VERY cost effective way to plant. I switched to 8-row (JD 7000) and "retired" the #71. It's been re-configured to a 2-row planter for doing sweet corn and green beans nowdays.

They are simple of design, VERY accurate (for a plate planter) and relatively inexpensive to operate. (parts are not that expensive, and with FEW moving parts, they just don't need many)

I see them on the internet during the "off season" for as low as $150 per row unit. Complete 2-row planters sell commonly for around $450. I've seen 'em sell for as much as $350 per unit and/or $750 for a complete 2-row planter.(in extremely good condition...)

If you're REALLY interested, Yetter Manufacturing made the #71 unit for Deere during it's production run. When Deere dropped the #71 from it's line, Yetter bought the rights to SELL them from Mother Deere. Yetter now markets their own #71 planter. You can get complete 2 or 4 row planters from them. (Just not that cheap)

Good luck with your crops!

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mikeinWA

06-27-2005 07:55:45




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 Re: follow up on JD 71 planters in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 06-27-2005 03:12:34  
Thanks again. The units I am looking at are $175 ea. I thought I remembered them being given away on ebay, then again I rarely follow an auction to the end. Dealer also says he has a milk crate full of plates, so we'll see.

Gratefully
Mike Peroni



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Indydirtfarmer

06-27-2005 08:54:23




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 Re: follow up on JD 71 planters in reply to mikeinWA, 06-27-2005 07:55:45  
I'd jump all over 'em at $175! I build up as many 2-row planters as I can ocver the winter, and sell 'em like hotcakes in the spring. I've been noticing quite a bit of interest in them of late. I see the price going UP on them in the future.



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Keith on DelMarVa

06-27-2005 12:14:28




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 Re: follow up on JD 71 planters in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 06-27-2005 08:54:23  
I guess I DID get a good deal then, 9 units on a notil double toolbar for 300 bucks.

Tha response you gave me was a major reason for jumping on it.


Keith



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