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Is it too late to make hay?

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daddyj

06-21-2005 09:52:52




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After all the trouble I have gone to, I think my hay is too far gone to make good saleable hay. How do you know when it is too late? I am willing to listen. Any advice???




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daddyj

06-22-2005 02:49:57




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
daddyj, Dates don't mean nothing to us on making hay. First check the grass, When its heading out it can be as high as 14% protien and after it's gone to seed it can drop to 2% but there is usually different grass types in the field so just take the best average then when weather is suitable. cut. If its too wet and getting poor weather, make silage. ( this is for first cut only when early in the year the weather is iffy) You can get more than one sometimes 3 cuts. Good luck, Jim Will

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sammy the RED

06-21-2005 21:58:47




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
When my Uncle was dairying, sometimes we would be makeing 2nd cuting befor we had finished all the first cutings.



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chief 83

06-21-2005 20:23:34




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
In SW Washington we have not started yet. We have had really strange weather. 1 day of rain followed by 2 days of the weather man predicting rain. The first rule in the NW is don't believe the weather man. If you do your hay will get wet! Looking at the satellite photos we may get a break sometime this weekend. We only get one cutting so it's nice to get it when it is at it's best. That would have been about 2 weeks ago.

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farmertee

06-21-2005 17:16:53




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
Here in NE PA I made a field of first cutting last year on labor day. I intended to feed it to my own animals. It was the lushest and greenest hay that I had in the barn. All my horse buyers wanted it. It looked a lot better than what I made in June.



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Hugh MacKay

06-21-2005 15:42:30




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
Depends on where you are, south of the Mason-dixon line hay is probably well past it's prime. Even from there to 45 paralell, well into Canada in the east hay making has been underway for couple weeks now. Then you take Alaska and Newfoundland, probably just mere grass just yet.

Then it really doesn't matter in your case. Listening to some of your thoughts over the past few days, I'd put my money on the fact you are going to destroy the hay anyhow.

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thurlow

06-21-2005 20:22:06




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-21-2005 15:42:30  
You've cracked me up, Hugh; don't often sit in front of this "machine" and laugh out loud..... ..



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Galen

06-21-2005 14:28:07




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
Well, shucks! Dad used to put up hay with 6" of snow on top! Don't put that baler away just yet! 8^)



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Illinois Boy

06-21-2005 12:04:38




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
It's not too late at all. I'll cut the stuff until ice forces me inside... well, maybe not that late in the year. Get it down now - I'm looking for two more cuttings this year, August and October. I just helped a neighbor do 450 acres - it's his first cutting. We'll cut that again before fall. They run a cattle farm and hay is a necessary evil for them - basically, if it doesn't moo, they're not interested in it. I enjoy the haying and they love that. At the very least you get to play with all your toys...

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old

06-21-2005 11:40:39




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
I've only got half of my hay done, I might cut the reat later today but not sure if I will get to it today or tomorrow.



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Dave H (MI)

06-21-2005 11:32:25




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
A lot of us here don't even start until now. Biggest seller in the area says they will not cut hay before June 15. Too much rain.



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Nebraska Cowman

06-21-2005 10:18:28




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
A lot of hay has been put up in July and August over the years and the cows didn't all die. Early immature hay has the most nutrition but it will gain in volume and weight to leave it. In mixed hay you just have to make a compromise.



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paul

06-21-2005 10:12:21




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
You need to get it out of the way so the next cutting is good. So, the short answer is, make it when you can. Don"t fool around with double cuttings, extra wheels, etc.

Type of hay, local market, & all that will "decide" if you have marketable hay. You can sell junk to landscapers for $.75 - 1 a bale, up to $5-6 a bale in short years for premium quality to rich horse folks.

If you are looking to make money at this, determine your market before you grow anything, find who will buy from you, plan for all grades of hay (every year you will get a few premo bales and a few total junk bales) & find buyers for those types of hay, & set up your buisness plan.

If this is for fun because you have a few extra acres, then keep having fun, & make your hay, you"ll find someone to take it off your hands for some price.

There is _no_ benifit to not making the hay, even if it is over-ripe by now. Around here most of us are 1/2 way through alfalfa cutting due to all the rain. We are supposed to be making 1st cutting last week of May/into 1st week of June, then cut every 30 days for premo alfalfa, 4 cuttings. We are 20 days behind, predicting rain 4 of the next 6 days.

We make the hay as best we can, got to get rid of it sometime to make room for the next cutting.

--->Paul

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thurlow

06-21-2005 10:02:25




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to daddyj, 06-21-2005 09:52:52  
Well, it depends on where you are and what your market is. Around "here", in a short hay year, you can pretty much sell anything that's in a bale/roll. Some folks seem they could care less what the TDN is, and are fond of quoting, "It'll beat a snowball". I've baled a lot of over-mature hay; sometimes that's just the best you can do.



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edchainsaw

06-21-2005 19:46:57




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 Re: Is it too late to make hay? in reply to thurlow, 06-21-2005 10:02:25  
some years my first cuttings around Labor day...
but I stop then too... it needs to grow before frost so it dont get a bunch of weeds coming (my idea I guess)

it may not be the best hay but the statement "it sure beats snowballs" is a common one --- especially to a cow in Janurary.



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