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txgrn

06-13-2005 09:23:03




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Well, I snuck around mother nature yesterday and got to use my new to me JD 530 round baler. Don't know what the previous owner did, but I need to take the book and walk through all the adjustments. Really baled some crappy looking stuff; BUT I GOT IT BALED AND IT DIDN'T RAIN ON IT. Yes!

Problem I have with haying is that I don't do it often enough to remember what I have to do and watch for. And on a new baler, I get busy concentrating on one thing (trying to understand if it is working properly) and overlook something else...but time will tell.

Mark

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Hay DR

06-14-2005 16:24:39




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 Re: Running new baler in reply to txgrn, 06-13-2005 09:23:03  
The larger the windrow the better the bale. Fill the corners of the baler and the middle will take care of itself. Get you a V-Rake and set it the width of your pickup and you will never have to weave again. If you have some hard starting check the start tension spring to see if it has loaded up with chaff and clean it out. That baler should have had the belts replaced by now if not will start to have hard starting in dry hay and hook troubles. They like need to be replaced.

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Tx Jim

06-14-2005 16:52:29




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 Hay Dr/ belt ???????????? in reply to Hay DR, 06-14-2005 16:24:39  
What determines need for new belts? Age of belts or number of bales? There are other factors than belts that affect starting of a rd. bale. Tx Jim



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txgrn

06-15-2005 06:41:51




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 Re: Hay Dr/ belt ???????????? in reply to Tx Jim, 06-14-2005 16:52:29  
I'm convinced that the pattern on the belt is essential to easy starting as is what I think to be an open throat vs closed throat design.

On when to replace..... as happened to me last year on old baler..... when you look back and you are missing a front tooth (belt gone) and it is no where to be found.....hiding inside the last bale you rolled.

Otherwise when the tie points get worn out and the belt looks like a "remnant quilt (bedspread)" from repairs. Grin.

But get out your wallet. You can easily spend $1800 on 3 ply diamond shaped belts for a JD baler. I spent $1200 on mine (old one) last year and didn't have near the quality of the current JD.

Mark

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Hay DR

06-14-2005 17:05:53




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 Re: Hay Dr/ belt ???????????? in reply to Tx Jim, 06-14-2005 16:52:29  
If a bale has a verticle chamber like a Hesston or JD the traction on the belts is parimount. The traction cleats on the belt turn the bale. If the belts are worn the baler will not take hay as good as it used to and in some conditions you will not be able to start a bale. Belts have a shelf life just as any other synthetic rubber product has. They will become brittle with age and even delaminate and separate from the cords. This varies according to how the baler is stored. Direct sun light does increase the oxidation process. Some belts are worn out at 8 years and some at 15 years of use.

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txgrn

06-15-2005 06:44:58




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 Re: Hay Dr/ belt ???????????? in reply to Hay DR, 06-14-2005 17:05:53  
Totally agree. A baler needs to be under a shed or in a barn if you want to keep your pocket book in your pocket.

Mark



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Hay DR

06-14-2005 16:24:10




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 Re: Running new baler in reply to txgrn, 06-13-2005 09:23:03  
The larger the windrow the better the bale. Fill the corners of the baler and the middle will take care of itself. Get you a V-Rake and set it the width of your pickup and you will never have to weave again. If you have some hard starting check the start tension spring to see if it has loaded up with chaff and clean it out. That baler should have had the belts replaced by now if not will start to have hard starting in dry hay and hook troubles. They like need to be replaced.

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txgrn

06-15-2005 06:37:24




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 Re: Running new baler in reply to Hay DR, 06-14-2005 16:24:10  
Must have what they call an open throat and my last one must have had a closed throat. This one starts very easily.

The belts are all diamond shaped 3 row belts in super shape....some new. I replaced all the connection wires prior to using.

Hear you on the fat windrow, but since it is higher in the middle than the sides, I feel better weaving; maybe I don't have to but it is a "teddybear" thing. (Grin) Once I get my new sensors installed, I will be able to accurately assess the bale shape and they should look a heck of a lot better.
Thanks,

Mark

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txgrn

06-15-2005 06:37:06




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 Re: Running new baler in reply to Hay DR, 06-14-2005 16:24:10  
Must have what they call an open throat and my last one must have had a closed throat. This one starts very easily.

The belts are all diamond shaped 3 row belts in super shape....some new. I replaced all the connection wires prior to using.

Hear you on the fat windrow, but since it is higher in the middle than the sides, I feel better weaving; maybe I don't have to but it is a "teddybear" thing. (Grin) Once I get my new sensors installed, I will be able to accurately assess the bale shape and they should look a heck of a lot better.
Thanks,

Mark

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Ia Steve

06-14-2005 06:20:11




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 Re: Running new baler in reply to txgrn, 06-13-2005 09:23:03  
Just finished our hay last night. 80 bales of alfalfa orchard grass mix. Baler worked great. But you are right about adjusting by the book. I don"t think this baler would have worked at all the way it was set up. I know for sure it would not have tied. All in all very happy, $4500 baler, $500 for sprockets,chains,teeth,twine belt and pickup belt, $$$ experience priceless.



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txgrn

06-15-2005 06:33:04




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 Re: Running new baler in reply to Ia Steve, 06-14-2005 06:20:11  
Spent most of yesterday going thru the tweaks. Don't know what the previous owner had for experience/brains, but the baler was a long way from the published specks. Today I am replacing the two bale balance sending units. Maybe my bales will be flat topped next time. One of them had a wire disconnected..... no wonder my bales were triangular (almost) shaped. The other had bare spots on it. No wonder the needle was jumping all over the place. I was chasing a ghost or two, waiting for a full indication that could never come.

Can't wait to get her back out and see.

Good talking.

Mark

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Ia Steve

06-15-2005 06:53:56




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 Re: Running new baler in reply to txgrn, 06-15-2005 06:33:04  
I adjusted those shape senders prior to baling.
They worked well as far as making an even bale but never really read real high in the green. I suppose could work on them again but I guess if it aint broke don't mess with it. Biggest thing out of wack on my 530 was twine arm trip linkage. Took awhile to get that set right.
Good Luck
Steve



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Ia Steve

06-15-2005 06:58:11




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 Re: Running new baler in reply to Ia Steve, 06-15-2005 06:53:56  
oops meant to say twine pump linkage



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