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Rich Iowa

06-09-2005 04:06:41

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I have my small 5 acres field, I drop my bales due to lack of a good sized hay rack. What do you all use to pickup you bales? Accumulator, bale wagons, banding machines? Real hard to find somebody around my parts that would stand on a rack and stack, they'd have to work and they won't go for that idea. Since it is just a one man show, I'm looking for some ideas on how to get the hay picked up quicker. What are your opinions on the afore mentioned pieces of equipment? TIA Rich

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Dave 2N

06-11-2005 07:30:38

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Rich Iowa, 06-09-2005 04:06:41

There's a famous saying that goes something like th: "You can't each an old dog new tricks." Well, I gues I'm an old dog.

Back in my veery much younger days, because we had a true hill farm, we used trucks with a bale loader. The bale loader was an easy on-off attachment to the driver's side of the truck. The first bale loader was made by I-H and was ground driven. The second one was a "Skinner," I think and this was powered by a Briggs gas engine. The truck driver just drove to the bales and the loader chain-conveyed them up to the bed of the truck where someone loaded them. We cvould get about 200-230 bales per load and then we would have to use ropes to bind load for the trip down the hill to the barn where the real fun began. "Mowing away" (piling) the hay in the hay mow was worse than loading. The hay mow was always hot ands dusty and the guys unloading the truck liked to see if they could bury the guys in the mow by sending up a non-stop stream of bales.

But I digress--if you are talking about normal 45#-65# square bales and fie acres, just throw them on the back of a pickup or on a trailer if you have one.

Best solution to this whole "frolic?" I finally wised up and now buy my hay.

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tim[in]

06-11-2005 06:28:53

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Rich Iowa, 06-09-2005 04:06:41

i've seen in farm show magazine where a guy made himself a bale basket out of wood and it worked well and was cheap.if you have a loader you can make a buck rake for it and gather them on the move.or get off and stack them on it or a 3 point hitch carrier on the back or both.personally ,i'm considering buying a hesston stackhand since i have little desire to sell small squares to suburbanites,except maybe at a hay auction.the car trailor thing should work good to because it sits so much lower to the ground and eliminates a lot of dangerous and tiring climbing onto wagons.

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WyoDave

06-10-2005 10:40:44

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Rich Iowa, 06-09-2005 04:06:41

Nobody mentioned anything about balewagons so I thought I would. Our family has ran them from pretty much the day they were introduced and couldn't do without one. However we put up 90,000 small bales a year commercially and they work great for that. For 5 acres you'll probably never get it to pay for itself and even figure out how to use it very effectively so the other options mentioned would probably be a better choice for your operation. If you have extra money you want to spend and like to learn new things then a balewagon will do a great job of picking up bales.
David

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Jim.UT

06-09-2005 15:54:05

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Rich Iowa, 06-09-2005 04:06:41

I'm really low tech. I pick them up by hand and put them on my 18' car hauler trailer.

Then I drive the trailer over to my sister's house and leave it there. After her hubby is done unloading it I go back and get my trailer!

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Rich Iowa

06-09-2005 18:05:58

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Jim.UT, 06-09-2005 15:54:05

I might go that route on my next cutting. My dad's neighbor has a 16' car trailer, would work better than making 5-6 trips to deliver the goods. I might have them come over and pickup the hay, seeing how they are getting such a great deal from me (friend's parents).

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ChasK

06-09-2005 07:17:59

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Rich Iowa, 06-09-2005 04:06:41

Are you around the Monticello area? I'm near Scotch Grove. Give me a shout, for 5 acres I'm not afraid to throw a few bales around some evening!!

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Rich Iowa

06-09-2005 14:56:14

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to ChasK, 06-09-2005 07:17:59

Sorry I'm not, I'm just west of Des Moines about 15-20 min.

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RickL

06-09-2005 06:30:41

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Rich Iowa, 06-09-2005 04:06:41

get yourself a bale basket wagon. It would be good for your situation. Iran 3 of those units for several years and really like them. they do need some minor tricks to really make work easier thou. I have a used unit availble last I knew. Let me know.

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RickL

06-09-2005 06:30:24

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Rich Iowa, 06-09-2005 04:06:41

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paul

06-09-2005 06:01:12

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Rich Iowa, 06-09-2005 04:06:41

Bale basket. The baler pushes the bales up a ramp into the basket, you can bale by yourself, need to handle the bales when you dump them on a pile tho. Works well, might be cheaper than some of your options....

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what's one weigh?

06-09-2005 08:08:51

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to paul, 06-09-2005 06:01:12

Paul:

I've never heard of one, just looked at a picture. I run a NH 66 baler behind my 8N on rolling fields, so there isn't a lot of spare power, but....I would dearly love to walk a little less when picking up bales, too.

Bkeepr

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Galen

06-09-2005 20:09:42

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to what's one weigh?, 06-09-2005 08:08:51

Is your's a PTO driven NH66, or does it have the Wisconsen motor? Like to find one for my 8N.

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Wisconsin motored...

06-10-2005 04:07:44

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Galen, 06-09-2005 20:09:42

Used to have a PTO driven baler, but saw this one with an engine at an auction and couldn't resist. It had been out in the weather for several years and looked it, so I managed to "steal" it for $110 when other similar square balers were running $500-$1,000. Couple hours I worked on it were as much learning for me as maintenance on it, and it works wonderful with my 8N...wouldn't ever trade it!

Bkeepr

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paul

06-09-2005 11:40:15

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to what's one weigh?, 06-09-2005 08:08:51

Yea, that would be a challenge. They use a tiny bit more power to push the bales up the ramp - tho you back the tension off to compensate so the bales are the same tension, not a lot of difference but a tiny bit.

The basket itself is quite light, no big deal, but of course by the time you get 100-125 bales in it it's a load! You could stop at 75 bales, just more trips....

I'm using an IHC 300 row-crop tractor with my NH 270 baler, so I only have 35 hp myself, but the live pto & TA hi/lo tranny make a great baling match. :)

--->Paul

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Joe in IN

06-09-2005 06:21:39

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to paul, 06-09-2005 06:01:12

Do you have a bale basket? There is one on Ebay right now and I saw a couple on ironsearch.com.

Do you like the way it works? I too am a single most of the time. Though sometimes I get my mother to come drive the tractor while I stack.

How does one transport these to their new home? The ones I saw are 11'4" high and 10ft wide. Do they come apart. $2000 - $2500 seems more affordable for a basket vs the accumulater system that could run 9K.... and I don't even have a loader so even more for me.....

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paul

06-09-2005 11:36:00

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Joe in IN, 06-09-2005 06:21:39

Yup, I got one at an auction for $1650 including the hitch needed for a NH baler. Pin needs to be centered below the bale chamber - a welding shop or you can make one easy enough....

Mine would not come apart - some bolts, some welded frame. However, the front dolly wheel can be pinned up with a hitch pin, and then it travels just like a (large!) 2 wheel trailer, I brought mine home 30 miles at highway speeds.

Works great in alfalfa, have to watch corners just a bit in slippery grass hay, and a bit more in slippery dry straw (keep corners a bit shallower), but on the whole I totally like mine, makes one-man square baling pretty good.

I posted a pic of mine perhaps a year ago here in the implements section of the gallery...

--->Paul

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Joe in IN

06-09-2005 06:11:40

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to paul, 06-09-2005 06:01:12

Do you have a bale basket? There is one on Ebay right now and I saw a couple on ironsearch.com.

Do you like the way it works? I too am a single most of the time. Though sometimes I get my mother to come drive the tractor while I stack.

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Indydirtfarmer

06-09-2005 04:37:17

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Rich Iowa, 06-09-2005 04:06:41

I bought a Steffens accumulator about 3 years ago. It was an auction item. I had no intention of buying it when I did. It just went too cheap to pass on. I started round baling most of my hay about the same time. PITY....

It makes square baling almost bareable....

I still do around 4000 bales of wheat straw. The accumulator pays for itself there every year.

In addition to the accumulator, I got the grapple for my loader tractor. With 9 wagons, I just keep loading them and backing them into the shed until help arrives.

I CAN do the baling by myself, but even with help, it goes so much faster and easier.

Now if I could just find an easier way to get the wagons UNLOADED...

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RickL

06-09-2005 06:27:06

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 06-09-2005 04:37:17

why can't you unload the wagons with grapple,I do it all the time. Even if you load into elevator you can take off bundle set beside dump and just pick uptwo bales inline and dump onto elevator done it several times that way. Just need someone in the barn.

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Indydirtfarmer

06-09-2005 08:39:28

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to RickL, 06-09-2005 06:27:06

We do....Just can't get the 4020 in the loft to stack hay there.....

I'm steadily developing this aversion to HANDLING bales

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RickL

06-09-2005 14:51:34

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 06-09-2005 08:39:28

That where the hoop sheds come in nice,i am curently stacking and cover outside storage piles

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Seth_ia

06-09-2005 18:11:13

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to RickL, 06-09-2005 14:51:34

Do you have any tricks for tarping outside piles? What Kind of tarps do buy?

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Seth_ia

06-09-2005 18:07:51

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Re: Picking Square Bales in reply to RickL, 06-09-2005 14:51:34

Do you have any tricks for tarping outside piles?

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RickL

06-09-2005 06:26:58

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