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#5 sickle bar mower

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johndeereman

06-06-2005 07:17:52




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i have a #5 mower im trying to get going my question is when i lift it the far end of the bar stays on the ground seems there ought to be some adjustment for this and i found a site that tells how to make a pitman arm it says that i should have a latch fork i dont have anything like the picture shows did they change this on later models mine is later than his his has steel wheel mine has rubber thanks for any input

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johndeereman

06-06-2005 10:43:02




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to johndeereman, 06-06-2005 07:17:52  
the bar has been cut down to 5 foot the bar is straight as an arrow i think bob has the right solution ill go try it as soon as the tornado passes lol ill have to find a book havent spent much time on a sickle bar lots of time on a discbine



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Greg C

06-06-2005 09:54:28




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to johndeereman, 06-06-2005 07:17:52  
Whereabouts are you? I've got a couple of #5's and lot's of extra parts just looking for new homes. If you can tell me what you need, I can take a look and see if I have it. E-mail is unhid.
Greg



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philip Ralston

08-11-2005 14:13:11




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to Greg C, 06-06-2005 09:54:28  
Do you have a PTO shaft shield for a #5 mower?
Phil



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Dave H (MI)

06-06-2005 08:44:02




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to johndeereman, 06-06-2005 07:17:52  
I'll agree with Allan on this, you probably have some parts missing. First, though, I want to make sure you know that the pitman is available at TSC or your JD dealer and making one is not necessary. Many other parts are also available at JD. You should order a manual from them and get the blow up showing everything. It will also show you safe operation. I have two of these mowers and still use them to cut small hayfields.
They are great mowers if you take care of them.

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Sid

06-06-2005 08:30:24




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to johndeereman, 06-06-2005 07:17:52  
What Bob said. You will find some John Deere stuff at retired tractors.com as I remember he has some info about the #5 mower there.



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Bob

06-06-2005 08:23:54




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to johndeereman, 06-06-2005 07:17:52  
From the owner's manual ($4.99 from ebay, and well worth it): "Inner and outer shoe should leave the ground at the same time, If outer end of bar rises TOO FAST, screw adjusting bolt DOWN in bell crank. If outer end rises TOO SLOW, screw adjusting bolt UP enough to make both ends of cutter bar rise evenly at the start. Chain swivel adjustment can also be shortened to take up wear and to make outer end of the bar rise faster, or lengthened to make outer end of bar rise slower. Be sure lifting spring has proper tension."

The "bellcrank", "adjusting screw" and "turnbuckle" are all located at the rear of the cutterbar inner shoe, just inboard of the cutterbar.

I hope this is understandable. Pictures would help, but my scanner is "down" at the moment.

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Allan in NE

06-06-2005 07:34:35




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to johndeereman, 06-06-2005 07:17:52  
Are you saying that the inner portion of the bar lifts and the outter end doesn't?

Sounds like the bow is gone from your bar. Needs to be resprung.

Allan



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Sid

06-06-2005 08:49:22




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to Allan in NE, 06-06-2005 07:34:35  
Never heard of that. Pleasese explain "Needs to be resprung".



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Allan in NE

06-06-2005 09:09:42




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to Sid, 06-06-2005 08:49:22  
Hi Sid,

The cutter bar tends to 'bow down' over it's length in time due to gravity and it's own weight. So, what happens is, that you go to lift it and it will end up pointing to the ground out at the far end.

To couteract this effect, the bar must be bowed upward across it's entire length.

I always had the John Deere dealer do it for me in the spring, but it is really no big deal. It needs just enough bow so that the bar lays fairly flat when lowered to the ground and when you drop the bar, the center should always touch down first.

However, imagine if you were to stand that bar up on it's edge, it should have quite a drastic "bow" or "C" to it in the direction of the top face of the bar.

In other words, when lifted, the bar should come up fairly straight. If it bows down, it needs attention. Of course, 9' bars are more demanding than the 7 footers.

Hope this makes sense.

Allan

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Allan in NE

06-06-2005 09:06:42




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to Sid, 06-06-2005 08:49:22  
Hi Sid,

The cutter bar tends to 'bow down' over it's length in time due to gravity and it's own weight. So, what happens is, that you go to lift it and it will end up pointing to the ground out at the far end.

To couteract this effect, the bar must be bowed upward across it's entire length.

I always had the John Deere dealer do it for me in the spring, but it is really no big deal. It needs just enough bow so that the bar lays fairly flat when lowered to the ground and when you drop the bar, the center should always touch down first.

However, imagine if you were to stand that bar up on it's edge, it should have quite a drastic "bow" or "C" to it in the direction of the top face of the bar.

In other words, when lifted, the bar should come up fairly straight. If it bows down, it needs attention. Of course, 9' bars are more demanding than the 7 footers.

Hope this makes sense.

Allan

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steveormary

06-06-2005 10:23:15




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to Allan in NE, 06-06-2005 09:06:42  
Sid; Allan

Never heard of such a thing as having to spring a cutter bar or have it rebowed or whatever. I would think if the inner shoe lifts and the outer shoe doesnt then some adjustments need to be made on the lifting mechanism. But its been5+ years since I run a mower.

steveormary



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Allan in NE

06-06-2005 15:18:45




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to steveormary, 06-06-2005 10:23:15  
Steve!!

Comon' now. I 'taint believin' that. :>)

Allan



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steveormary

06-06-2005 17:49:04




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to Allan in NE, 06-06-2005 15:18:45  
Allan,beleve what you want but I will check with some other of my farmer friends.

steveormary



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steveormary

06-06-2005 17:46:54




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to Allan in NE, 06-06-2005 15:18:45  
Allan,beleve what you want but I will check with some other of my farmer friends.

steveormary



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Allan in NE

06-06-2005 18:08:43




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to steveormary, 06-06-2005 17:46:54  
Heck,

We had to re-bow every mower we ever had on a yearly basis. 'Course they were long barred devils and we were dealing with heavy irrigated alfalfa all the time too. :>)

Allan



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Allan in NE

06-06-2005 18:05:43




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to steveormary, 06-06-2005 17:46:54  
Heck,

We had to re-bow every mower we ever had on a yearly basis. 'Course they were long barred devils and we were dealing with heavy irrigated alfalfa all the time too. :>)

Allan



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Tx Jim

06-07-2005 04:06:09




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 Re: #5 sickle bar mower in reply to Allan in NE, 06-06-2005 18:05:43  
Allan,I agree with Steveormary about bowing cutterbar.Dealer I worked for never did that to sickle mower.Maybe re-bowing cutter bar is a regional maintenance thingy.Maybe to glide over horsey apples!!!!! ! Tx Jim



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