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New Holland 479 Conditioning Mower height adjustme

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betsy

06-02-2005 14:12:12

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We've just purchased a New Holland 479 mower/conditioner for our first haying on a new farm (40 acres in hay). The mower was just delivered, but now how do we raise the cutting edge up and down? We're trying to run down a manual -- but in the meantime...

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jimont

06-05-2005 17:01:26

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Re: New Holland 479 Conditioning Mower height adju in reply to betsy, 06-02-2005 14:12:12

Betsy - Just thought that I should add that you have one of the best model NH haybines ever produced. I purchased mine new in 1972 and it's still going ! I might add , that, with hay, you have just taken on the most challenging crop ever to produce a quality product. Many farmers in our area are getting out of haying after the very trying conditions we had last year. I'm sure you will develope a much better understanding of this farming game this year. Don't give up as nothing beats the satisfaction of beating Mother Nature at her own game (when she lets you ----that female factor you know!)

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betsy

06-05-2005 06:17:31

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Re: New Holland 479 Conditioning Mower height adju in reply to betsy, 06-02-2005 14:12:12

We're completely stumped by this. It appears the machine is in 'transport' mode. The whole back assembly needs to drop down about 10 inches so it actually rides on the feet. There is a very suspicious looking pin/lever on the right side (looking at it from the front) that appears to be set in a back pisition but we can not easily jocky it forward. We have tried prying it but the amount of force needed seems like too much for a common adjustment and we're not even sure that this does what we think.

I am attaching links for some additional images of the machine and the area we are looking at. Any advice is appreciated. The hay is up to my neck.

Still Stumped by transport position on NH 479

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betsy

06-05-2005 08:47:49

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Re: New Holland 479 Conditioning Mower height adju in reply to betsy, 06-05-2005 06:17:31

I am attaching links for some additional images of the machine and the area we are looking at. Any advice is appreciated. The hay is up to my neck.

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jimont

06-05-2005 16:42:57

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Re: New Holland 479 Conditioning Mower height adju in reply to betsy, 06-05-2005 08:47:49

Betsy - Looking at your side view of your 479 picture, the solid (none extending base)of your hydraulic ram is attached by a pin at the point directly in front of the yellow decal which is on a slant. The live end (extending rod end) of your ram attaches to the lever which is over the rod which is now holding the machine in the raised position.Actually, that lever(for lack of a better word) should swivel forward enough to attach your ram's live end using a pin. BY NO MEANS TRY TO PRY THAT SLIDING ROD UP FROM THE POSITION IT IS IN NOW OR THE MACHINE WILL DROP LIKE A STONE!!!!! The machine is now in the transport position. When the ram is properly attached, extend it to it's fullest throw (use a 3"x8" standard ram). You now have the total weight of the machine on the ram. Now take a large "hair" pin and shove it in the 2 holes which are , at present, directly above that positioning rod. This keeps the rod from returning to the transport position while you are cutting hay. Hope this is clear enough a description to help you. BTW, I hope you are going to attach the tounge to a regular tractor draw bar and not the 3pt bar it is on in the picture !!!

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betsy

06-05-2005 17:37:26

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Ah, so we're missing the hydrolic RAM?! in reply to jimont, 06-05-2005 16:42:57

Okay, so are rams standard? It seems as though ours is missing. Can I just go buy one? THANK YOU for replying! We're so excited but our manual for this bad boy won't arrive for 10 days or so! Not that it will do us much good without the manual to the MF baler! Do you spose the MF 224 square baler is common enough in NJ to be able to find a tractor repair person who might be able to come out and teach us about knotters? That is my next thing to tackle after finding a ram...

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jimont

06-05-2005 18:57:47

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Re: Ah, so we're missing the hydrolic RAM?! in reply to betsy, 06-05-2005 17:37:26

Betsy - Rams (3" x 8") are available just about everywhere ,even TSC and all dealers. You'll also need two hoses and the proper male tips to fit your tractor's outlets. It looks as if you have an IH tractor so your dealer should be able to fix you up with everything needed.They should also be able to suggest the proper length of hoses needed. As to your baler, I would think that any competent baler service man could help you out.

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betsy

06-06-2005 14:11:39

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It all seems so simple, now! in reply to jimont, 06-05-2005 18:57:47

(Tee hee)

We have the perfect ram on our bush hog. And the hoses ta' boot! We're in the mowing business!!!! Thank you SOOO much! We're tracking down a baler service man as I type, too.

This is our first spring as NJ farmers. What did new farmers do before the Internet? :)

Betsy

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jimont

06-06-2005 16:39:11

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Re: It all seems so simple, now! in reply to betsy, 06-06-2005 14:11:39

Betsy - Congrats on gettin' 'er figger'd out!!! As to what we did before the 'net ?? Well for the most part, we very lucky ones were fortunate enough to be born into farmin' and to be raised amongst older people , namely our grandparents. People from that generation followed the horses and were much closer to the soil than we are to-day. For the most part, people to-day are several generations removed from the farm.
If I may be so bold , seek out those in your community who might fall into that category ----you just can't beat LOCAL expertise!!! Every area has farming challenges unique to it and must be learned either the hard way or by simply asking your farming neighbours.
I'm not trying to be condescending here , but you are just getting involved in one of the most dangerous occupations on earth. Above all BE PATIENT ,everyone learns from experience,never get in a rush ----speed and inattention kills. Keep in touch , this is one great site!!!

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betsy

06-06-2005 17:13:06

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Re: It all seems so simple, now! in reply to jimont, 06-06-2005 16:39:11

Jimont, I couldn't agree with you more. I was lucky to have had a father who could (and would) do everything and although we didn't have a farm, we grew up rural with property -- ozark rocks, more like it. A few years ago I was lucky enough to be an interim Ag (cooperative extension) agent and got to work with NJ farmers who are a scrappy and resourceful bunch -- you have to be to be able to hang on to farming here! So finally, my husband and I were able to wrangle up enough cash to buy a farm in NJ (and protect it from sure development) and here we are! Yikes! We have 4 new (very old and very retired --29-34 yr old) horses and some rescued 4H goats and sheep who lost their homes but were too much like pets to not be pets. And 40 acres to hay for them. We couldn't be more delighted -- but yes, we'll be very careful. I think dicipline is the key. It was the single trait that all my farmers had when I was with extension...

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jimont

06-06-2005 17:29:08

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Re: It all seems so simple, now! in reply to betsy, 06-06-2005 17:13:06

Here in Ontario,the gov't is just plain gutting our provincial ag dept. ---- just plain sad what's being done here. We'll soon be at mercy of multi-nationals in every way !!!
Best advice I ever got was from an old landlord I had. Earl had kept a daily diary of the weather and crops for over 60yrs and on a particularily troubling year, I asked him if,over the years, he had seen a weather pattern develope. He thought for a moment, then drawled "Yeah Jim ,----- ----- -every year's different." Now if that doesn't say it all about farmin', nothin' does.

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devildawg(tx)

06-03-2005 17:04:16

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Re: New Holland 479 Conditioning Mower height adju in reply to betsy, 06-02-2005 14:12:12

What type mf baler? I have a massey #3 that I have a book for.

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betsy

06-05-2005 09:13:06

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New Baler in reply to devildawg(tx), 06-03-2005 17:04:16

The new baler is a MF 224. We need to get (at least) a photocopy of the part of the manual that shows how to sting the knotter. I'm having a hard time finding a manual online to purchase for this one. I'm certain that when (if) we get to start baling our own hay, we'll be very gratified with the process!!!

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jimont

06-03-2005 05:51:24

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Re: New Holland 479 Conditioning Mower height adju in reply to betsy, 06-02-2005 14:12:12

As old says, a hydraulic cylinder controls raising and lowering the cutter bar. The stubble height is controled by two "shoes" beneath the cutter bar. There are three different heights to choose from.

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betsy

06-03-2005 06:08:46

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Anybody know exactly where is this hydraulic cylin in reply to jimont, 06-03-2005 05:51:24

Not sure where this hydraulic cylinder is. Am I staring right at it? Yikes, we haven't even started figuring out how to thread the knotter on the Massey-Ferg. baler we got yesterday, too. Thanks for your help!

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jimont

06-03-2005 06:35:35

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Re: Anybody know exactly where is this hydraulic c in reply to betsy, 06-03-2005 06:08:46

Betsy - The hydraulic cylinder, when fitted, is found on the tongue, just under the gearbox. There's a solid attaching point with a hole for the "dead" end of the hydrauulic cylinder with the matching "live" end slightly above a slotted "ramp" which has a pin that locks your header in it's uppermost position for road travel. Clear as mud ---right! It's hard to describe , but once you've got it figured out, it's pretty clear. By all means, get an owner's manual for the machine(any machine) as they are indispensible.

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old

06-02-2005 14:14:33

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Re: New Holland 479 Conditioning Mower height adju in reply to betsy, 06-02-2005 14:12:12

Should have a hyd. cylinder or a hand ratcket thing to do that. If is doesn't then you will probably need to buy one.

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