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NH 617 disc cutter????????

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Tx Jim

05-28-2005 03:51:28




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Do any of you cut with a NH disc cutter?My 617 keeps breaking the tubing that supports the tarp.It appears that tube needs to be supported at end of bar like an older Kuhn.Any ideas?Thanks,Tx Jim




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KEH

05-28-2005 15:56:44




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 Re: NH 617 disc cutter???????? in reply to Tx Jim, 05-28-2005 03:51:28  
Tx Jim, Not familiar with the NH617, but I have had to re weld the tubing on 2 Vicons. I would weld some reinforcing steel on the 617. The NH advertising claims that the no end support is to prevent plugging that supposedly troubles the types with end supports. txgrn, The reason for using a disc mower is that you can cut as fast as you can sit on the tractor, assuming you have enough HP. Going fast with the holes you describe in the field would be a problem. Re tilting the tractor, you do need a fairly heavy tractor. My cousin pulls a 8 ft. model with a 4400 Ford industrial. He says a 4000 with a farm type front is a little light. I use a 64 HP Long 610 and it handles a 8 footer fine. A disc mower is not any fun to put on or off the tractor. Don't think 2 people would help much. The problem is getting the lower 3ph arms lined up. Disc mowers don't clog up unless you hit some baler twine. Some kinds of grass such as Bahia grass are tough to cut. KEH

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Roy in UK

05-28-2005 22:23:20




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 Re: NH 617 disc cutter???????? in reply to KEH, 05-28-2005 15:56:44  
What's the problem mounting a disc mower? I had 2, a Vicon 8 foot mower and later on an 8 foot Lely Mo-co. When they are detached from the tractor leave them in the working position ie cutterbar down, never folded up, on flat level ground ( a concrete floor is best) I used to hitch mine by putting the left hand ( looking at the rear of the tractor )lower link on first, then if the right hand one needed lining up fore or aft, I used to go to the far end of the cutterbar and using it as a lever you could quite easily ( and I'm only a little fella! )pull it back or forth until the right hand link lined up, any up or down adjustment could then be done with the levelling box on the right hand lower link.

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txgrn

05-28-2005 16:50:28




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 Re: NH 617 disc cutter???????? in reply to KEH, 05-28-2005 15:56:44  
Thank you sir. You answered my aspirations about tough to mount and tilting. You are the second person mentioning that your tractor hp needs to be up. That's the interesting thing about the sickle bar MoCo. Takes very little to run it and it mounts in a flash.

Thanks again,

Mark



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txgrn

05-28-2005 05:56:48




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 Re: NH 617 disc cutter???????? in reply to Tx Jim, 05-28-2005 03:51:28  
Jim,

Why do you use a disc cutter and what do you cut with it?
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There are several for sale in my area and I am unfamiliar with them, but looking for a new mowing "gimmic" for lack of other description.

I definitely do not like sickle bars period, and rotary cutters are limited in a hay environment (great otherwise). My main cutter is a swather, which does a super job of everything but the sickle gets clogged up in wire grass.....course I could leave the wire grass and come back with the rotary mower. My swather is much wider than my rotary and cuts much faster.
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How much does the thing tilt the tractor to the side when installed?

What kind of breakaway does it have?

One pasture in particular has lots of deep (4" to 6" x 3' diameter) "sink holes" that have occurred because black clay likes to shrink in places. So cutting along you would encounter a very irregular cutting surface.

How about goint over terraces. Normal contour terraces on a hill side and terraces associated with a pond where you are trying to divert water into a tank?

I did notice that the rotating hootus's that the little blades attach to are for sale in TSC but pricey. How often do you have to replace them? How about drive gears that drive these hootus's?

How hard is it for one person to mount and dismount to/from the tractor?

What does it take to clog them up?

Appreciate your comments.

Thanks,

Mark

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Tx Jim

05-29-2005 04:18:41




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 Why I use disc cutter in reply to txgrn, 05-28-2005 05:56:48  
Txgrn,I use a disc cutter because of three main reasons.Fire ant mound, gopher mounds and high humidity(lay hay flat with no need for windrow).Mine is as easy to hook up as a pulltype mo-co because it is mounted on a caddy.It will go over a terrace or depression as easily as mo-co.One can pull a disc cutter faster than mo-co but because of mounds,fields are tooooo rough.I cut mostly bermuda,some johnson grass,bahai or oats.Acres cut per set of blades depends on several things.Type of soil as sandy soil wears blades faster.Damper soil tends to wear blades faster.Changing blades is a lot faster than changing sickles or sections.Tx Jim

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