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NH Chain Balers-Operation Tips

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PaMike

05-20-2005 09:34:49




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I just bought a NH chain baler with Autowrap. Anybody have any tips on getting a good solid bale? I am tripping them off smaller than full size, and they still arent that tight. Spring pressure is all the way up, and I have the little curved pieces added under the cables. Has anyone tried making the curved pieces larger, so the tension comes on sooner?




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banjo3

05-26-2005 18:53:44




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 Re: NH Chain Balers-Operation Tips in reply to PaMike, 05-20-2005 09:34:49  
THE CHAIN ROLLER LIKE THE 851 WILL NOT MAKE A TIGHT ROLL LIKE A BELT BALER WILL. WE HAD ONE FOR A FEW YEARS BUT WENT TO A BELT BALER,AS FOR WEAVING ACROSS WINDROW THESE NEW V-RAKES WILL ELIMINATE THIS. JUST SET THE RAKE SAME WIDTH AS BALER AND JUST DRIVE STRAIGHT. THIS WILL ONLY WORK IN THICK HAY.



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Glen in TX

05-20-2005 22:43:30




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 Re: NH Chain Balers-Operation Tips in reply to PaMike, 05-20-2005 09:34:49  
Sounds like you got plenty good advice on weaving to make bales. Don't waste your money on aftermarket chains if you plan to really use it a lot. We did that once and never again. Could never hear that little horn on box with open tractor so I mounted and wired a orange trailer clearance light to it instead. Get or borrow a manual and make sure something isn't worn or out of time on wrapping rods. Dealer delivered us a new belt baler once and it was headache until we got what they put together wrong in time on rods. Good luck with it.

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vVeathered

05-20-2005 19:57:02




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 Re: NH Chain Balers-Operation Tips in reply to PaMike, 05-20-2005 09:34:49  
I have had an 851 since June 1986. I don't sell hay so the cows don't care that they are egg shaped when they go in the feeder. They come out round but after a couple days are flat on the bottom..... a plus for me actually since I have a lot of hilly ground..... the tight round ones roll off the front of the hay rack going down hills... not mine of course... a guy that does corn stalks on shares for me and he has a fairly new belt baler. I bought an 851 auto tie last year. It makes better bales than my older 851 because I let it get to full size and tie on it's own.....my older one is manual tie....can bale in my sleep with that one !! Got at least 18000 bales on that one since I got it used in 1986. Anyway.....I could write a novel on 851 tips. Email me and I will save u a lot of time and money !!! :)

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JDPete

05-20-2005 18:03:41




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 Re: NH Chain Balers-Operation Tips in reply to PaMike, 05-20-2005 09:34:49  
I have used NH 850 and NH 851 and Vermeer 605. I like the 851 best. It just seems easier to use. I start my roll in the middle then after it gets a good core started, just concentrate on the sides. Drive on one side for a distance the cross over and drive on the other side. If you fill the sides out evenly, the middle takes care of itself. If you are getting a loose roll, one cause might be your ground speed is to fast.

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kyhayman

05-20-2005 17:06:41




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 Re: NH Chain Balers-Operation Tips in reply to PaMike, 05-20-2005 09:34:49  
Bale density is the reason I left the chain balers. I loved them but never did have one that made a bale to suit me. If a cow can pull hay out of the bale its too loose, I want her to bite it off.

I would run about 2/3 of PTO speed until the core was formed. Then run it at full 540 PTO RPM to get the roll. Fuller the roll the better the density is on the chain baler.



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JMS/MN

05-20-2005 16:37:33




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 Re: NH Chain Balers-Operation Tips in reply to PaMike, 05-20-2005 09:34:49  
With any machine, an operator manual is important. When running a round baler, you don't weave like a drunk, back and forth across the windrow. You run straight down the windrow for a comfortable distance, then cross over to the other side- later go back again. Weaving gives you a big center, and little hay on the sides of the bale. You want a tootsie roll, not a lemon drop.



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old

05-20-2005 12:49:44




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 Re: NH Chain Balers-Operation Tips in reply to PaMike, 05-20-2005 09:34:49  
First do you have a manual for it yet?? Do you pull it in a stright line or do you drive like your drunk??
I run an850NH and the manual says to drive side to side so both sides fill as it should. If you don't you will have a loose bale and its also very hard on it.
My baler puts out so tight of a bale if you try to get a bale spear in one and hit it just a little off it will push the bale not go in. Plus they are around 2000-2500lbs each

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caseyc

05-20-2005 13:08:01




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 Re: NH Chain Balers-Operation Tips in reply to old, 05-20-2005 12:49:44  
same here old. my first year with my 850 but all my neighbors say the same.... drive drunk and make sure the spear is square with the bale going in!

casey in SD



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old

05-20-2005 13:12:56




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 Re: NH Chain Balers-Operation Tips in reply to caseyc, 05-20-2005 13:08:01  
I have pretty well given up on the bake spike and just use the bucket of my loader, then put a chain around it. I also have trouble even moveing them, they are so heavy I have almost not traction to move the tractor after picking them up. Thats with a ford 801 with filled tires and a back blade with 6 suit case weights on it. Oh well I only do about 30 bales a year any how, the guy that did the same field years ago would get around 100 bales. Guess that says something about that 850 and how tight they pack it in.

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edchainsaw

05-20-2005 21:32:30




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 Re: NH Chain Balers-Operation Tips in reply to old, 05-20-2005 13:12:56  
Ive been baling with and 852 since 1982 what I find makes the bales tight... drive slow -- small windrows w/PTO full speed...

the 52 is an auto --- I have no warning horn anymore and made one bale 2 yrs ago so big it busted the chain--- the HD chain not the original

I was sick..



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