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Fred OH

05-12-2005 13:18:11




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I bought a two bottom plow for the Massey 35 and it sure pulls hard....some of that might be the shares and mold boards are kinda rusty and I was wondering how you actually measure a plow. The shares are 15" across the bottom. The plow is an AO-14 Ferguson and the ground I was plowing was old hard clay that hasn"t been turned in 40 years if that. I can"t let the thing clear down as it makes the rear wheels spin and they"re not loaded. Am I not adjusting the upper link correctly...or how is it adjusted to keep the plow from digging in so deep? The draft control is set on fast response. Other than that it seems to do alright....just pulls too hard. Thanks for any coaching...Fred OH

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Leroy

05-15-2005 06:47:29




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 Re: two bottom plow in reply to Fred OH, 05-12-2005 13:18:11  
Measure from left side of front beam to left side of rear beam at 90* angle. An AO-14 I think is a 14" plow, for 12" I would think the number would have a 12 instead of 14 in



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BushogPapa

05-13-2005 19:38:15




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 Re: two bottom plow in reply to Fred OH, 05-12-2005 13:18:11  
ANY sign of rust is going to make your plow pull at least 50% Harder... Even a well-scoured plow properly oiled and sheded from last year will pull harder until it gets a ner scouring on the metal parts... You may get it scoured up if you keep at it, and scrape the mouldboards at the end of every round.. If you do get it scoured, OIL the wearing parts every nite, and don't allow dirt to remain on the parts at dinnertime...!! That nice shine is worth keeping..!! I used to hear that rubbing the mouldboards with an old Brick was a good way to remove rust.. Never use a grinder on those wearing parts..they will never shine up like they shoud for easy pulling..

Ron..

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Glenn F.

05-12-2005 21:05:01




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 Re: two bottom plow in reply to Fred OH, 05-12-2005 13:18:11  
If I were plowing here in WI with your tractor I would pull 2-12's at the most. Glenn F.



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Pooh Bear

05-12-2005 20:11:51




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 Re: two bottom plow in reply to Fred OH, 05-12-2005 13:18:11  
I have a 2x16 plow for my 8N.
This plow is to big for an 8N.
So I took one of the bottoms off it.
it plows just fine with just 1 plow.

Pooh Bear



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Fred OH

05-13-2005 07:32:01




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 Re: two bottom plow in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-12-2005 20:11:51  
Guys...this plow was purchased new by an old school mates dad and he used it with an 8N Ford and their farm was around 200 acres....but I don"t know what kind of soil they had. I got enough advise to get started in the right direction with it. Thanks, Fred OH



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Hugh MacKay

05-12-2005 13:39:27




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 Re: two bottom plow in reply to Fred OH, 05-12-2005 13:18:11  
Fred: To start with you are including two factors which make plowing most difficult; 40 year old sod and clay. It just anit going to pull easy. To stop the plow from going as deep you lengthen the top link. How long is the landside on the rear plow bottom? I like to take a rusty plow, find some almost pure gravel or sand. Pull the plow through that for 30 min., it doesn't take long. You could go at it with a sander or grinder, but I guarentee you will work a lot longer and harder.

If I were attempting to plow that old sod for the first time in 40 years, I'd look for a single furrow 16" bottom plow. Keep the plow you have, use the single bottom until you get all that old sod turned, then sell it. My bet is you will never part with either, I didn't.

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Fred OH

05-12-2005 17:50:19




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 Re: two bottom plow in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-12-2005 13:39:27  
Hi Hugh...I did take the small disc grinder and shined up the shares some but wasn"t sure about the top link...I"ll try your suggestion and lengthen it. I got an answer to the rest of it...the neighbor down the road needs some plowing done, hopefully enough to shine the shares and mold boards up and get the thing adjusted right.
The landside on the rear plow looks to be new and is about 24" long. Thanks for the info, it"s much appreciated. I had a fellow out here a few years ago to do some trenching for a waterline and he tightened up the clutch on it twice and said this is the hardest soil I ever seen. Now you hear the rest of the story. Thanks again, Fred OH

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Hugh MacKay

05-13-2005 03:27:06




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 Re: two bottom plow in reply to Fred OH, 05-12-2005 17:50:19  
Fred: Bill has given you some good advice for a 3 point plow. You may have an alignment problem as he suggests, however if so you should feel tractor pulling to right or left. Most of my plowing experience has been trailers, semi-mounts and of course my 1 point fast hitches, thus I didn't want to get into that alignment. Your wheel tread should be close to 52" centers for a 2x12 plow. If that is off by more than 6" you may have trouble getting your right furrow the right size.

That rear land side is a good length. Another tip, when done plowing spray all the plow wear parts with graphite. Keeps the rust off and when start to plow next time soil will slide nice over the graphite. It will wear off, so I put a new coat on each year.

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billOH

05-12-2005 18:49:59




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 Re: two bottom plow in reply to Fred OH, 05-12-2005 17:50:19  
Try this, Fred:

Attach the plow to the 3-point hitch. Drive the tractor's left rear wheel up on a 6-inch block. Use the right hand leveling crank and the top link screw adjustment to level the plowshare and the landslide with the ground. Do this on a good level spot or on a level slab of concrete. Pull a string from the back of the land slide to the front of the tractor or further out in front of the tractor and make a straight line beside the land slide to the front of the tractor. The line should angle slightly to the right front wheel of the tractor about 6 inches more than the left. This is to assure that the plow doesn't try to turn the tractor right when the plow comes in contact with the earth. Think of the plow acting as a rudder would on a boat. The way to adjust the angle of the landslide to the left is to loosen the bolts that hold the drawbar that goes across the plow and attaches to the two lower links and twist it in it's cradle until the plow is pointing in the right direction (string pointing to the right at the front of tractor). The plow will have to be raised to let it more easily be moved. Some plows have adjusting bolts that help in turning the plow and in securing it in position. This is just a preliminary adjustment and when in the field it may be necessary to tilt the plow slightly forward by shortening the top link etc.

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