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Vince H

05-06-2005 05:45:37




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This is the first year since my fiance's great grandfather died that I am going to be taking care of our orchard. I don't know the name of the insecticide he had been using, but I know you have to take some sort of class and get certified to be able to buy and own this stuff. Since I have no idea how to properly use it and it is pretty toxic if used wrong, I am not going to use it. From what I have found out so far liguid sevin seems to be what I want to use. Only problem is I can only find small quantities at Home Depot and Walmart. Tractor Supply Company doesn't sell large containers and I don't really have anywhere else around to try and buy it from. Can anyone suggest where I can order large quantities from?

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sammy the RED

05-08-2005 08:48:43




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 Re: Insecticide? in reply to Vince H, 05-06-2005 05:45:37  
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RayP(MI)

05-07-2005 07:46:38




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 Re: Insecticide? in reply to Vince H, 05-06-2005 05:45:37  
Suggest you contact your county extension office. They will probably have current recommendations for your particular pests and application practices. Here in Central Michigan, we have a major problem with the Colorado Potato Beetle. they"re immune to practically every known insecticide. They dine on Sevin like salad dressing on the potato vines. Any insecticide over a couple seasons old is probably a waste of money. Think about it - you apply a chemical, and who survives? THOSE WHO ARE IMMUNE TO IT! - What do their offspring have in common? THEY ARE IMMUNE TO IT! This is especially a problem with pests which have several generations and thus several applications in a growing season. If I could only come up with a solution to this dilemma, I"d be RICH! (or at least pest free!!)

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thurlow

05-06-2005 08:45:25




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 Re: Insecticide? in reply to Vince H, 05-06-2005 05:45:37  
Don't know what you're calling an orchard; you're gonna need 5 or 6 different chemicals, in additon to the Sevin. Paul is right about the supplier..... local CO-OP or chemical dealer. Depending on what kinds of fruit you have, you're about 8 to 12 sprayings late; many fruit trees need a dormant spray in the late winter and weekly spraying there-after. Go to your county agent and ask for a spray schedule. You may need license of some kind BEFORE YOU CAN BUY some chemicals. Around "here", it's handled by the county agent, who offers annual classes.

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paul

05-06-2005 06:25:27




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 Re: Insecticide? in reply to Vince H, 05-06-2005 05:45:37  
I"m going to _guess_ - that is dangerous of course.... ;)

But, I will guess that what you want is bulk quantities of generic Sevin, look for the generic active ingredient name. It will be sold by the 2 - 30 gallon jug from good ag chemical supply places, and it will require you have a licence. As well, it will cost 30% or so of the consumer-sized product.

As a farmer, it is a little upsetting that homeowners can use so many of these chemicals willy-nilly, while we farmers need special licences & such to use the same thing in a responsible manor, yet we get bad-mouthed about all the chemicals we use by "city folk" all the time.....

But, I"m on my soap box, & not helping you any....

I"m more familiar with crop herbicides, so for example you can buy Roundup, Roundup WeatherMax, Clearout 41, or about a dozen other "brands" all of the same basic "glysophate" product. Some companies charge more for the same product, others add different surficants & strengths - but _all_ are basically glysophate. You can buy a good additive package for less than $15 a gallon (which makes 60 gallons of spray for 4 acres or more) from an ag supply place, or you can buy premixed 12 oz spray bottle of Roundup brand for $4-5 at the gardening center.... Same stuff, different licence requirements, different costs.....

You need to do the same for your insecticide needs. Find out the generic name of what you need, not a brand name, and search for an ag chemical supplier that can get you bulk quantities. As an ag businessman, you likely will be subject to the licencing/training stuff - even tho you are applying the same stuff a homeowner can buy off the shelf.

--->Paul

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Hugh MacKay

05-06-2005 17:39:05




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 Re: Insecticide? in reply to paul, 05-06-2005 06:25:27  
Paul: Isn't it amazing what society will accept. Regulators and Chemical Companies have used the licencing system to charge the untrained up to a 1000% markup. I guess they figure if your going to kill a guy you may as well relieve him of his money first.



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