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tugboat tim

05-02-2005 06:47:24




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mornin all. there isn'nt a flat piece of soil on my farm would like to find a set of rollover plows. any I should steer clear of? there's not a lot to compare price thanks




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Colorado Curt

05-02-2005 15:59:51




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to tugboat tim, 05-02-2005 06:47:24  
Allan is right, there are a lot of 2 and 3-bottom rollover plows around here. The Deere plows seem to go the cheapest with the IHC and Oliver plows going for more. I Colorado, I see John Deeres pulling IH plows all the time. I have a IHC 314 (3x16) 2-point. It sits real close to the back seat of my 560. The first time I spun that plow around, I was looking back and it hit my elbow. If you are not careful, you can also get a face full of dirt!

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Tom from Ontario

05-02-2005 12:36:47




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to tugboat tim, 05-02-2005 06:47:24  
I'm on the hunt for a 2 furrow rollover as well. Colorado Curt said he knew of a few of them. Up here, there is a near new Knernelands 2 furrow and it's a beauty but they want $4500. I'd rather have an older one and if I have to come to the high plains to find one or two, I'll do it. Ford 5000 for power. I may be going through Laramie in a few weeks, so a little side trip to look around would be great. Anybody know of some fencerow beauties not too far from I-80?

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Allan in NE

05-02-2005 12:44:59




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Tom from Ontario, 05-02-2005 12:36:47  
Tom,

I know where there are a truckful of two and three bottom spinners. Nobody wants 'em anymore and I'll bet ya can buy 'em for almost nothing.

I'd sure let Curt do your shopping. He has really done well by me so far and I've given him a whole laundry list of stuff to "search for" and grab. Honest as they come.

Allan



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Allan in NE

05-02-2005 07:40:08




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to tugboat tim, 05-02-2005 06:47:24  
Mornin' Tim,

The Masseys pull the easiest, followed by the Deeres and then the IHs. The IHs are heavy buggers, tho. :>(

They're asking $5500 for this used 4 bottom 18 inch cut.

Allan

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JHILL

05-02-2005 13:04:02




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Allan in NE, 05-02-2005 07:40:08  
Allan,
I went by the JD dealer today and there is a 10 bottom Kvernland rollover plow there. It is huge. Has carrier wheels in the middle to carry the weight. Put that behind you 966 LOL

Jerry



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mvk

01-26-2006 10:12:20




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to JHILL, 05-02-2005 13:04:02  
Do you know where that kvernland 10 furrow rollover is now???



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Jerry (AL)

05-02-2005 08:44:45




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Allan in NE, 05-02-2005 07:40:08  
Just wondering how these things work. Never seen one before other than pictures. I understand the theory but how do these things flip? Hydraulics?



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Roy in UK

05-02-2005 09:32:07




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Jerry (AL), 05-02-2005 08:44:45  
Yes, with a double acting ram mounted on the headstock. The older ones did have a spring loaded trip mechanism but they were prone to wear and since all the newer tractors come with at least one double acting service as standard, its a more positive method.
I think 90% of all plows sold in UK must be reversibles (rollover) now



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Allan in NE

05-02-2005 09:44:16




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Roy in UK, 05-02-2005 09:32:07  
Hi Ya Roy,

I watched a guy plowing a circle using a 7 bottom "normal" plow this past Saturday.

Looked to me like he was spending the better part of his day just travelin' back and forth across the end of the field. :>)

Allan



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buickanddeere

05-02-2005 13:45:40




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Allan in NE, 05-02-2005 09:44:16  
Ploughing a circle? Was he driving across the entire headland with or without the plough in the ground? I thought the idea of the rollover plough was to start on one side of the field and make a 180 degree turn and start right back down the furrow you just left? Just one furrow and one strikeout/crown/ridge/live furrow or what ever you call it. And they are on the far edges of the field. Dirt should never get piled up agaist a fence. And you are not bounching machinery or/through furrows. Should see the ridge of top soil against all my fences. Years ago some "bright light" had the place rented for several crops. Seems he one way disked the same direction every year.

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Allan in NE

05-02-2005 15:12:31




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to buickanddeere, 05-02-2005 13:45:40  
No,

This feller on the pivot had one of those "one-direction" plows. He had to the the "lands" thing.

Allan



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Roy in UK

05-02-2005 11:57:07




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Allan in NE, 05-02-2005 09:44:16  
Allen
Was it a semi mounted? those long semi mounts need a headland like football field !
Here is a nice little rollover plow for you to look at:-



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jhill

05-02-2005 13:08:39




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Roy in UK, 05-02-2005 11:57:07  
I didn't know there were any places in France where there were fields that large, Semms like something you would do in North Dakota.



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Allan in NE

05-02-2005 09:41:16




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Roy in UK, 05-02-2005 09:32:07  
Hi Ya Roy,

I watched a guy plowing a circle using a 7 bottom "normal" plow this past Saturday.

Looked to me like he was spending the better part of his day just travelin' back and forth across the end of the field. :>)

Allan



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Allan in NE

05-02-2005 09:26:54




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Jerry (AL), 05-02-2005 08:44:45  
Hi Jerry,

That very front hitch assembly has a lengthwise large "hole" in the middle. The "spine" of the plow is mounted on a large "pipe" that inserts thru this hole and is then collared and pined at the front of the hitch from which the hitch then pulls the plow.

Right behind the hitch assembly is an 8 inch hydraulic cylinder that is lying down crosswise and horizontal. It is hooked to the hitch on one end and the plow "pipe" on the other.

When the hydraulic lever is thrown, the plow spins about this pipe in the 'hole'. The guide wheel goes down and around underneath with gravity releasing a weighted mechanical "catch" and then as the plow comes on up thru it's spin, the wheel then 'drops' and hooks the catch again to hold it in position for the other direction.

With the hydraulic cylinders' action, the plow spins on the pipe either 180 degrees one way or 180 degrees the other way to give the plow two direction operation.

The whole spinning process takes about 3 or 4 seconds depending on how much oil restriction a guy has put in those cylinder hoses. 'Bout have to use the restrictors, 'cause the tractor is wound up and she'll really come around and might break something when it hits the stops, if allowed full hydraulic flow.

When I get my plow bought and hooked up, I'll take a series of pictures to show how the silly gizmos "flop over". :>)

Allan

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Allan in NE

05-02-2005 09:39:19




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Allan in NE, 05-02-2005 09:26:54  
Should have added:

That "pipe" running thru the plow's spine usually goes all the way back to the rear bottom and pulls against a plate on the back of that bottom.

The back bottom then "pushes" the foward three bottoms ahead of it via the outter channel iron "spine" fitted around that pipe. (Usually) :>)

Allan



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Allan in NE

05-02-2005 09:36:17




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 Re: rollover plows in reply to Allan in NE, 05-02-2005 09:26:54  
Should have added:

That "pipe" running thru the plow's spine usually goes all the way back to the rear bottom and pulls against a plate on the back of that bottom.

The back bottom then "pushes" the foward three bottoms ahead of it via the outter channel iron "spine" fitted around that pipe. (Usually) :>)

Allan



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