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What to look for in a 3pt hitch rotovator/rototill

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EWB

05-01-2005 17:55:11




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I am thinking of getting a rototiller to go behind my JD 1020 (38 horsepower) tractor. What are some of the features to consider on a rototiller. I have heard people mention that a 4 speed gearbox is essential but an not sure even what that would do. What about shear pins/slip clutches and such. I am aiming towards the cheaper side of things but would like something of decent quality. Thanks

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mikeinWA

05-02-2005 23:00:24




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 Re: What to look for in a 3pt hitch rotovator/roto in reply to EWB, 05-01-2005 17:55:11  
Look for: type of drive; chain vs gear. I happen to prefer chain drive, I think they have a little more give, and are significantly less expensive to repair if neccesary.

Multi speed gear box: nice to have, more expensive. Some require removal of plate and actually switching gears, not real fast. If your tractor has a 540/1000 rpm pto this multi speed is probably not neccesary.

Weight is probably as important to me as anything. JDs are lighter than Kuhn and Howard pretty much out weighs them all. Heavier tillers will work the soil better.

I recently bought a used Howard and am very happy. Multi speed box 1000+ lbs. They are a bit pricey new. I looked at new Kuhns, Maschios and JDs. Probably would have gone with the Kuhn new for price/weight and # of tines. Each company has a number of different models, some better than others based on the afore mentioned criteria.

I also strongly recommend a tiller you can offset. This will allow you to cover the tracks of the tractor at greater wheel widths without running a tiller too wide for the tractors HP. At 38 Hp I would think you would be in the market for a 4'-5'.

If looking at used check carefully for broken welds and leaking seals. Also check tines for wear. If possible hook the unit up to a tractor before you pull out your wallet and at least listen to it run. The queiter the better.

Please dont expect more from rotavators than they are capable of. They will not turn a pasture into a groomed seed bed. They will do wonders on plowed and disked ground.

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EWB

05-02-2005 10:13:14




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 What about an adjustable gearbox in reply to EWB, 05-01-2005 17:55:11  
I just spoke to someone who sells rototillers and they suggested that a variable speed gearbox was very helpful. Apparently it will allow the operator to adjust the speed of tine rotation - down to 140 rpm. Has anyone made use of such a gearbox? How important are they?



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mud

05-02-2005 09:34:56




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 Re: What to look for in a 3pt hitch rotovator/roto in reply to EWB, 05-01-2005 17:55:11  
We got an old P-60 Howard Rotavator. No gauge wheels. Has adjustable skids that work terrific.
Get the gear drive unit, them chains have weak links!



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mud

05-02-2005 09:34:25




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 Re: What to look for in a 3pt hitch rotovator/roto in reply to EWB, 05-01-2005 17:55:11  
We got an old P-60 Howard Rotavator. No gauge wheels. Has adjustable skids that work terrific.
Get the gear drive unit, them chains have weak links!



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txgrn

05-03-2005 06:08:56




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 Re: What to look for in a 3pt hitch rotovator/roto in reply to mud, 05-02-2005 09:34:25  
I don't think wheels or skids make that much difference. The point I think he was trying to make is that you need something on the implement to establish depth.

On the chain, I share your comment on chains. Years ago garden tillers had gear drives and they never failed. Then along came engineering changes to reduce cost; i.e. chain drive, and walla..... problems I'd bet you. I still have the ole gear drive, but common sense says they will be problematic.

Mark

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Hay Dr

05-02-2005 06:18:45




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 Re: What to look for in a 3pt hitch rotovator/roto in reply to EWB, 05-01-2005 17:55:11  
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You will see Kuhn & Howard units sold in the USA have optional gauge wheels. Most of the other manufacturers had gauge wheels but have discontinuing offering them as an option. The first thing in choosing a good tiller is look for Gear Drive units. The chain is the #1 item to break on a tiller. Tines are wear items and will need to be replaced according to use. Pictured is a CCM Gear Drive tiller. There are HP recommendations on their website. They have 3 different series to match the size and HP of your tractor.

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txgrn

05-02-2005 05:31:04




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 Re: What to look for in a 3pt hitch rotovator/roto in reply to EWB, 05-01-2005 17:55:11  
Just 2 things I know of:

1. Tractor has to run pto at pto speed to get the tynes turning yet run at very slow ground speed; especially on the first cuttings where you have to dig your way thru the concrete.

2. Was shopping for one and was told by a mechanic at a dealership (not salesman) to not buy theirs. I said why not? He said "because ours don't have gauge wheels".

Mark



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EWB

05-02-2005 05:56:20




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 Re: What to look for in a 3pt hitch rotovator/roto in reply to txgrn, 05-02-2005 05:31:04  
I am not sure of what gauge wheels are - can you please describe them?



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txgrn

05-03-2005 06:04:12




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 Re: What to look for in a 3pt hitch rotovator/roto in reply to EWB, 05-02-2005 05:56:20  
Well, I never saw them. Just repeating what the mechanic said. I'd assume they are like any other gauge wheel meaning that you can set them to the desired depth and go for it with the 3 pt relaxed. This way if you go over uneven terrain, the implement will follow the terrain, not the tractor's position.

Mark



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Roy in UK

05-02-2005 09:44:11




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 Re: What to look for in a 3pt hitch rotovator/roto in reply to EWB, 05-02-2005 05:56:20  
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This one has them an adjustable depth wheel each end, usually depth is contolled by crank handles



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txgrn

05-03-2005 06:05:24




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 Re: What to look for in a 3pt hitch rotovator/roto in reply to Roy in UK, 05-02-2005 09:44:11  
Yeahhhhh man. That's what they look like.

Gotta beautiful looking field there.

Mark



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