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Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help

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Ironhorse

04-25-2005 07:29:16




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I pick up a old Mccorick Deering graindrill on steel. Where is the ID plate found on this unit? Were to look for a manual? It has two sets boxes / bins one in front and a rear one what is each one for?

how much horsepower does it take to pull one?

anything else you can tell me about it would be great!!!!! !!

thanks

Ironhorse




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Hayshaker

04-27-2005 07:31:46




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 Re: Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help in reply to Ironhorse, 04-25-2005 07:29:16  
The "M" & "MF" drill could be ordered with the low pnuematic tires or the high wheels steel or rubber.



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Hayshaker

04-27-2005 07:24:22




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 Re: Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help in reply to Ironhorse, 04-25-2005 07:29:16  
I acquired an "M" drill afew years ago. This one has the grass seed box mounted low on the rear. My dad owned one, bought new in 1949, had the grass seed box mounted on the front. I found a brochure on the "M" and "MF" drills and it shows both of these options. My drill has the fluted seed feeders for the main box where Dad's had the split feeders with the large cone gear drive to change the seeding rates. My drill has the hydraulic raise attachment where Dad's had the rope trip lift. I seeded our newly constructed waterway and used brome and found out you have to open the feed a lot more to come close to putting the right amount of oats and brome on.

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James2

04-26-2005 08:04:54




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 Re: Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help in reply to Ironhorse, 04-25-2005 07:29:16  
I think Leroy is correct. I don't think the model 10 which replaced the model M and MF, was offered with steel wheels. I have a model MF with grass seed and rope trip on rubber. The "F" means it has fertilizer. You must have a model M, since it only has a one large box (seed) and a smaller box for grass seed. Manuals are going to be tough to find, I do have the original operating manual and original parts book. When I get a chance I'll take a look for a serial number tag. Leroy could very well be correct on this issue also. I have never looked. This drill is overall in excellent condition, and the fertilizer has never been used. If one is to find a painted on S/N, it would be on this machine

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Leroy

04-26-2005 14:53:52




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 Re: Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help in reply to James2, 04-26-2005 08:04:54  
I do have a MF setting out in the yard and have both MF and M books



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Richard Roemer

04-05-2006 10:46:43




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 Re: Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help in reply to Leroy, 04-26-2005 14:53:52  
Could you tell me the paint colors for an MF drill? I know it is mainly red, but mine has blue on the discs and I can't really tell what color the wheels were. Any help would be appreciated. Do you know anywhere that sells decals?



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Leroy

04-25-2005 17:23:59




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 Re: Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help in reply to Ironhorse, 04-25-2005 07:29:16  
Wood boxes or steel boxes? One Large box or 2? Could be a model MF or model M. How many openers and single disc or double disc and in straight line or stagard? If single disc are they turned all one way or half each direction? Small grass seed box mounted on front or back? Lever lift, Rope clutch lift, Hydrolic Lift?



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Ironhorse

04-25-2005 19:03:13




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 Re: Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help in reply to Leroy, 04-25-2005 17:23:59  
Steel box ,single disc, straight line,half each direction, grassseed box in front, rope clutch lift,



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Leroy

04-26-2005 05:44:02




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 Re: Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help in reply to Ironhorse, 04-25-2005 19:03:13  
Does it have 1 large (seed) box or 2 large (1 seed, 1 fertilizer) boxes, it still sounds to me like a model MF or Model M, count the openers and I might be able to come up with the exact model. Also measure the width between openers, should be either 6", 7" most poupler, or 8". That No. 10 mentioned before I think is a lot newer. Leroy



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Leroy

04-25-2005 17:25:53




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 Re: Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help in reply to Leroy, 04-25-2005 17:23:59  
Forgot. No tag all information painted on, probably weathered off.



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Ultradog MN

04-25-2005 14:30:09




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 Re: Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help in reply to Ironhorse, 04-25-2005 07:29:16  
Ironhorse
What Michael Soldan says.
However, those front boxes might be for grass seed.
I have an old Van Brunt on steel but it doesn"t have the fertilizer boxes. The big rear ones are for oats or rye etc. The front ones are for grasses like alfalfa or timothy etc. Folks usually plant a "cover crop" of oats or rye when they plant hay/grass. Grass seed is very tiny compared to grains and so you need to meter it out in much smaller quantities.
BTW There is something VERY satisfying about hearing a 60+ year old machine whirring away like a sewing machine as it still does perfectly the job it was built for.
Good Luck
Jerry

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Michael Soldan

04-25-2005 09:48:33




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 Re: Mccormick Deereing Grain Drill Help in reply to Ironhorse, 04-25-2005 07:29:16  
Ironhorse, I have one up in my barn, still in good working condition. The front boxes are your seed boxes, the rears are for fertilizer. There should be feeds in the rear boxes that look like thin cogs, these rotate to keep the fertilizer loose and feeding into the spouts. Is your drill a single disc or a double disc, double discs at the bottom of each feed were newer models. I believe you have a #10 McCormick drill. You can seed from one side or the other or both . There may be a grass seeder box on the back beneath the fertilizer boxes. I would guess your drill is somewhere between 1945 and1955. I remember ours being delivered into our yard and I wasn't very old so maybe1953. I can still get the grain spouts for it but they are now converted to rubber, comes with a wire clip that you attatch andtwist onto the downspout(feed). They are indestructable and don't rust like the originals. I don't remember wher the serial plate is but I will look tomorrow when I go out do feed the cattle. I have a brochure produced by McCormick Deering that was taken on my grampas farm, it was of a new seed drill being pulled by a team of horses and my Uncle Roy was driving them. They gave him a complimentary brochure and I found it in his things when he died, he had proudly left a note inside it explaining the significance of the brochure and he named the two horses he was driving. That was around 1940 and it would be a predecessor of the #10 seed drill. So as to your question of horsepower to pull it in real terms the answer is "Two" I used to seed with an Allis Chalmers C and it would pull the drill easily...you don't need much horsepower. If I were you I would get some penetrating oil and oil all gears and chains, collars on shafts etc. There was a collar on the trip mechanism on ours that siezed from sitting and I had to heat it red hot and douse it with cold water to get it free, ever since I have kept it oiled. There is a crank shaft at one end of the drill that you could put a crank on and rotate the mechanism to see that the fertilizer feeds worked and the seeds were dropping/working, it was also there so you could clean the drill out and get all the seeds out by cranking the mechanism. The seed chart was glued onto the inside tops of the seed boxes, giving data on how to set the drill for different crops, unfortunately after 50 or 60 years not many have survived. I should probably get a manual for mine too as I forget from one year to the next about settings and I haven't seeded grain in 3 years. They were good drills and there were a pile of them sold, many seeded the farm for decades, neighbour up the road still uses his grandfathers drill to sow his wheat and oats. That's about all I can tell you off the top of my head....Mike in Exeter Ontario

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