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Will a JD A pull 3-14s?

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tractordave

04-23-2005 20:34:15




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Wondering if my 1949 John Deere A gasser should pull 3-14s or if I should get a 2 bottom plow. I want to buy a plow for plow days and want a 3-14 but do not want to look like a fool. Should I get 3-14 or 2-16?
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Dave




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1206SWMO

04-25-2005 17:21:22




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to tractordave, 04-23-2005 20:34:15  
I grew up running a 1947 A JD bored .125 over with aluminum pistons.It had the 2 stick tranny.In fairly easy plowing soil a 2x16 JD 44 plow was a load for it.Dad was plowing with a 1949 M Farmall pulling 3x14's in 3rd and lapped me all the time.

The neighbor had a 1951 A JD on LP with the straight 6 tranny and pulled 3x14's with it.He later got a 620 LP and it did pretty good on 3x16's.



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Loren-MN

04-25-2005 05:55:33




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to tractordave, 04-23-2005 20:34:15  
I have to disagree with most. We pulled 3-14's in rich heavy black soil in south central Minnesota with a 41 A, 49 A, 50 A, 55 60, and 56 60. Except for alfalfa sod, 41 was 2nd gear, but all the rest pulled in 3rd.



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paul

04-25-2005 05:33:36




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to tractordave, 04-23-2005 20:34:15  
It"ll pull it, but not while in the ground in my soils.... We all like to show off our stuff, being guys and being bigger & badder than anyone else around, but never did understand pulling the guts out of an old worn tractor when you aren"t trying to accomplish anything but have some fun for an afternoon. This question comes up so often, don"t understand the reason to overwork a tractor like that....

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Dave 2N

04-24-2005 17:11:20




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to tractordave, 04-23-2005 20:34:15  
I think that a JD 44H (hydraulic lift)2X plow is the best plow for either an A or B for a plow day. I agree with buickanddeere--why beat up your A with a 3X when it will "play" with a 2X?



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tractordave

04-24-2005 13:49:18




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to tractordave, 04-23-2005 20:34:15  
Hey guys thanks for all the tips. I really never did think about stuff like trailer length, and not needeing the capacity of 3 bottoms. I will search out a 2-14 trailer plow that carries the trailing wheel. Thanks again!



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buickanddeere

04-24-2005 10:44:55




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to tractordave, 04-23-2005 20:34:15  
Why lug the guts out of an 56 year old tractor with a three furrow plough?



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TP from Central PA

04-24-2005 06:55:36




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to tractordave, 04-23-2005 20:34:15  
Funny though, everyone I know always pulled 2-16"s with A"s around me. We bought a "49 A acouple years back and just for kicks hooked it to our IH #60 3-14"s..... .....I honestly didn"t think it would hack it in our hill ground. It pulled them, and a tad better than what I expected to boot..... ...Burned alot of gas up though doing it(Grin).

I"d say for plow day though I"d only buy 2-14"s or your going to be lapped by hot iron. I much rather lap others than have other lap me!

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Leroy

04-24-2005 09:25:08




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to TP from Central PA, 04-24-2005 06:55:36  
16" were prety much unheard of in our area, mostly 12" and some 14" but hardly any 16"



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John51

04-24-2005 06:45:38




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to tractordave, 04-23-2005 20:34:15  
I had a 1950 A and pulled 3 bottom 14 inch JD trailer plows for years. In a lot of tough ground, limestone /clay ridges. Plowed in the fall for wheat when the ground was much harder, too. Usually second and sometimes third gear.



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Leroy

04-24-2005 06:25:15




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to tractordave, 04-23-2005 20:34:15  
That tractor is rated for 3-14" or 2-16" and is 38 PTO HP. For plow days you are not looking for capacity, just something you can have fun with. Some of the people there will have small tractors with too large a plow and they will just sit on the sidelines while the rest will have fun, there will be some that have 4 plow tractors with a 2 bottom plow and they will fly throu the field while if tough you will be able to just move and have to lift in midle of furrow and let faster ones thru and then pull back in. In some soils you would be ok, others not, My 51 pulled 3-12" to farm with and at times could pull in third gear but most time in second gear and that tractor still puts out the full 38 HP on the dyno but then you have to remember mine was the single gearshift model instead of the double gearshift model like you have and your first is equal to my second and your second is equal to my third so good chances you would be in low (first) all the time with no chance to go down for a tough spot.
Now to tell you what type of plow to get. Get a 14" so that you can work in the same furrow with a 12" and a 16" so the landowner does not have a nightmare to get the field leveled after plowing is done, now get a plow that you know you can pull so you aren't setting on the sidelines (Been There, done that, tractor and plow used at home for 40+ years), now comes the transportation of unit, you will need a truck and trailer of size to haul the unit, most will not be within driving distance with tractor, max 2-3 mile if plow will trail good, most will not, minimum of 18' trailer bed if youhave a 2 bottom that carries the tail wheel, and is easier to load and unload, if you haf one with the tail wheel that carries the rear of plow it will be harder to unload because that wheel will not let the plow goe where you want it to and will have to unhook and unload plow by hand and will require a 3' longer trailer, a three botton you are doubling the work to unload and then again it would only have the crazy wheel as a tail wheel and will require at least a 24' trailer without any room to move to balance load. these other factors are worth more than the pride you could get by saying look what my tractor can do and then not being able to move, for anything like a plow day figure 1 bottom less than you would normaly have for your farm for your field work. I have been to several plow days as well as hosting them, So I speek from first hand experiance, errer on safe side, go under size instead of over. Seen that happen Too many times and make sure you have sharp (What works for you at home may not work at plow day ground) shares with good coulters (Had mine drop off at plow day I hosted, club member without a tractor was driving mine), also make sure you have good tires and pumped up so when you get there you will not get embarest(SP). Also make sure you have a full gas tank and check oil before leaving home. Have fun.

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BobMo

04-24-2005 05:42:05




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to tractordave, 04-23-2005 20:34:15  
Not knowing what type of soil you'll be in better stick with 2 or you may suffer the alternative. It really wasn't built for 3 but will do it under ideal conditions. Good luck & have fun.....



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msb

04-23-2005 21:50:59




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 Re: Will a JD A pull 3-14s? in reply to tractordave, 04-23-2005 20:34:15  
Sure it will pull it if you don't put it in the ground unless the soil is about all sand.Find a 2-14" plow and you will be able to keep up with everyone else.



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Tx Jim

04-24-2005 04:39:55




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 JD BO pulls 2/14's in reply to msb, 04-23-2005 21:50:59  
I pulled a JD #52 2/14 with a JD BO last year in some clay/loam mix with no problem.Looks like a JD A should pull 1 more bottom.



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