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Kent in NB

04-20-2005 18:01:30

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See afew of these coming up at auction this week. Just wondering what crops and soil conditions, types, etc...., that these will work well in? Are they better,worse than the Brillion type packers? Thanks , in advance. Kent in NB.

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bjr23

04-21-2005 12:29:59

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Re: Crowfoot packers in reply to Kent in NB, 04-20-2005 18:01:30

I'm thinking of building my own 6' floating packer using the 10/14 schmeiser rings. I have a 35hp tractor that I think? will pull it okay. I can get the rings locally for about $11-$12 apiece. For a 6' I think it will take 30 rings. For some reason the parts store says use 1-11/16" pillow block instead of say a 1-3/4". Then use a 8" pipe for a center. I wonder if any one else has shop buit a packer? and how did it turn out? bjr23

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Tom from Ontario

04-20-2005 19:11:42

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Re: Crowfoot packers in reply to Kent in NB, 04-20-2005 18:01:30

Kent; A crowfoot packer is for breaking clods or a crust. Watch out for stones! Allan would use them behind a plough where moisture retention is critical in his country. Around here we use them right before seeding if it is crusted or for a light packing after seeding(also here for crust breaking just before emergence. A corrugated packer is usually carrying a lot more weight and stand stones better. Some guys use smooth rollers but I never like them much because if you got a heavy rain, the soil would wash and if it was clay, it will form a crust. Note that a Brillion seeder type of packer has wheels with a very low corrugation, this acts as a depth control device for small forage seeds or canola. Wonderful machines, if you have timely moisture. If you ever have to plough extremely dry ground and it comes up cloddy, a cultipacker can do a real nice job in one shot, but here again, a heavy rain after that will gve you a crust again

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longhorn236

04-21-2005 06:31:47

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Re: New Idea sickel mow in reply to Tom from Ontario, 04-20-2005 19:11:42

I am rebulding a NI 30a I am curious what the tolerance is regarding the wear plates on the bar I am putting all new plates in and I don't know wear to set them.

How much gap should be left between the front of the teeth and the gaurd?

I would like to do it right the first time but that is always tricky.

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Kent in NB

04-20-2005 19:19:10

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Re: Crowfoot packers in reply to Tom from Ontario, 04-20-2005 19:11:42

Thanks Tom, Just the kind of answer I was looking for.

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J. Schwiebert

04-20-2005 19:03:28

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Re: Crowfoot packers in reply to Kent in NB, 04-20-2005 18:01:30

Around here crowfoot packers are only used on the lighter soil. The item that Allen has a picture of is cutli-mulcher because it has the harrow in the middle. We have one a 12 foot International. We use it when we sow alphalfa.
On the heavy soil you use the type of wheels found on the back and we simply call them packers. You only use them when it is drier than normal or you have small clods you want to dry to break up. No till has made the mto the point where they are not used much anymore.

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Allan in NE

04-20-2005 18:23:22

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Re: Crowfoot packers in reply to Kent in NB, 04-20-2005 18:01:30

Kent,

I dont' think that crowfoot is the model name. That would refer to the type of wheels on the packer, wouldn't it? Crowfoot vs smooth?

Allan

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Kent in NB

04-20-2005 18:44:49

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Re: Crowfoot packers in reply to Allan in NE, 04-20-2005 18:23:22

Your right Allan . That was how it was described in the sale bill. I hadn't really noticed them until you started posting pictures of them. Since you have experience with them, what is the right situation to use them in?

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Allan in NE

04-20-2005 18:54:13

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Re: Crowfoot packers in reply to Kent in NB, 04-20-2005 18:44:49

Hi Kent,

I can only speak to the way things are out here in Nebraska.

I used the silly things just about every time I wanted to plant something, and always behind a plow. It's hard to explain, but if you ever see one work, you'll buy it in a heartbeat; they are that good.

The only thing would be the wheels, like you say. If it is equipped with one gang being smooth, they need to be on the front because they will mud up if run on the rears.

Tried to buy one in town the other day. Salesman told me "Everybody is wanting these old things again."

Found this used Kawanee up in Montana that they are asking $4500 for. See how the crowfeet are on the front? Just don't see how that can ever work right.

Allan

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Josh H

04-21-2005 05:49:24

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Re: Crowfoot packers in reply to Allan in NE, 04-20-2005 18:54:13

I'm thinking a brand new Brillion 10' is around $5500. Here in PA, my neighbor bought a real nice used 12' brillion for $1800. They sure are nice for working ground.

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Allan in NE

04-20-2005 18:20:22

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Re: Crowfoot packers in reply to Kent in NB, 04-20-2005 18:01:30

Kent,

I dont' think that crowfoot is the model name. That would refer to the type of wheels on the packer, wouldn't it? Crowfoot vs smooth?

Allan

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