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Vermeer 504G Electric Tie Question

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Bob Semrau

04-13-2005 08:39:44




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I just bought this baler, and I think that the tie arm is misadjusted. I can make the arm go all the way to the left, to what I think is the start position, but when I move the arm to the right it goes about 75 percent of the way before the motor chatters and stops. It looks to me like the angle between the outer tube and the cutter arm is wrong. It looks like there is an adjustable bolt and a pivot bolt that can be loosened to change this angle. Should I just loosen them up, and make the arm go all of the way to the right, stopping when the twine is pinched, and tighten it up, or is there something more complicated to this ?

I've called Vermeer to get a manual, but it hasn't arrived yet.

Also, this baler has two big springs on top, with some pretty thick airline cable going through them, that attach to the top front tube that a 504F would have the hydraulic pressure cylinder attached to. It is labeled Dameco Products, Soper, OK (as far as I can remember - I'm at work now). Is this some extra option for tighter bales ?

Thanks !

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Joe(TX)

04-13-2005 09:46:33




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 Re: Vermeer 504G Electric Tie Question in reply to Bob Semrau, 04-13-2005 08:39:44  
Are you talking to the right looking at the baler from the front or as it travels? Referenced from the travel direction;
There is no adjustment or stop when the arm goes to the right. Ther is a stop to the left (cut off). It is the screw that holds the twine for cut off. The chattering is the slip clutch in the actuator. It sound like the actuator is binding up. You might cure it by taking apart the actuator and cleaning and lubricating the screw.

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Bob Semrau

04-13-2005 18:16:02




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 Re: Vermeer 504G Electric Tie Question in reply to Joe(TX), 04-13-2005 09:46:33  
I figured it out - the motor/actuator assembly was on upside down, and the motor was stopping the arm.



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Bob Semrau

04-13-2005 10:39:51




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 Re: Vermeer 504G Electric Tie Question in reply to Joe(TX), 04-13-2005 09:46:33  
Joe :

I'm talking right as I look back at the baler. I'm probably being confusing because this is the opposite of what most manuals define left and right as. When the arm is all of the way left, it is in the position where the twine is closest to the bale, so that the bale will grab it and start wrapping. All of the way to the right is the twine cutting position.

What I think is causing the binding is the angle of the outer tube to the pivoting cutter arm - I think that it needs to be narrower.

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paul

04-13-2005 11:18:05




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 Re: Vermeer 504G Electric Tie Question in reply to Bob Semrau, 04-13-2005 10:39:51  
Join the conventional world, and swap your left & right.... It will serve you well down the road. :) Too confusing to comment your way.

--->Paul



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