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new holland 1010 bale wagon

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tugboat tim

04-11-2005 23:57:27




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I've been havin a notshin of getting a bale wagon since most of the work in haying is done by myself . But a friend of mine said it won't work to good for me since there is'nt a level spot of soil on my property. He also said i'd need a 1/4 turn chute for my baler. is any or all true? as always thanks in advance tugboat tim




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Warren in Wi

04-14-2005 14:47:09




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 Re: new holland 1010 bale wagon in reply to tugboat tim, 04-11-2005 23:57:27  
Tim,

I have used the bale wagon for a number of years. I too needed a "quarter turn chute" for my 14T baler. I just rigged one up myself. It was pretty quick and easy. The baler hitch for the wagon runs under the bale chute. I first removed the bale slide, then I just bolted a 4X4 on top of the hitch. I then bolted a piece of plywood on top of that. The plywood was only about 1/2 as wide as the bale chamber and extended back about 3 feet. When the bale pushed out of the chamber, it balanced on the plywood until it cleared the chamber and then it tipped off to the side. I found that a springy rod on the other side helped to keep the bale from tipping all the way. It took a few tries, but once adjusted, it worked great for me. That was the easy part. Getting the balewagon to make a stack that would stand on its own took me a lot longer!
Good luck

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Errin OH

04-12-2005 11:39:26




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 Re: new holland 1010 bale wagon in reply to tugboat tim, 04-11-2005 23:57:27  
Guess I could argue both sides and yes you will need a quarter turn. When by yourself, as I am much of the time, It would be nice. However there are some considerations that should be figured in.

In my case, older equipment � JD 893 rake, Ford baler, 2 pull wagons and an 18� flat bed truck. I can rake up, and bale a dozen or so acres in bout 3 hours. Include pickup and move, roughly 350+ bales in a day (noon till bout 6). But tend to limit that to 300 a day for transport reasons. I also have some help with pickup (local HS kids driving and stacking). I bale odd rows (direction) that place�s two rows together. Saves a trip or the need for someone to work the other side of wagon. Get about 70 on a wagon and go transfer it to the flat bed. Truck holds ~160. Then fill both wagons, (another 140). Cart 300+ home by dinner time. If I was to replace the driver with a with a bale wagon. Using a 55 bale wagon would actually cost me both money and time. Driver cost $5 hour for 4 hours. ($20). Average of 3000 bales a year, 10 cuttings puts my labor charge at $200 a year. Modest wagon - $1800. Nine (9) years to break even, not counting any maintenance cost. I figure with a 30 year old machine I am going to get 5 years out of it. That puts it at $260 a year. For me it�s not worth it, but if you �can�t� get help it may be. The last few years weather in Ohio has not been friendly to the hay farmer. In a good week we might get four days in a row that is dry. So by the time you get to mow, dry, ted, dry, rake and bale. You�re looking at storm clouds. That�s why I tend not to mow any more than I know can get done a �no� rain window. Pickup is some what time consuming but not to bad. He parks where I can get to bout 10 bales. He stacks the ten as I bring them over. We move up. Takes bout 40 min to do 70 bale. We can do the transfer in about 15 min (same level, just restacking). 3 hours to pickup and 20 min back to barn (slow trip pulling two wagons). Now if I used a bale wagon total time to load is 10 min per 50. 6 loads put me at an hour. But I have to unload. Unloading at the end of field is no good so I�d have 6 trips to the barn. Figure 5 at 20 mins each (round trip) minus the first and final 10, that�s little less than 2 hours, now I am back to about 3 hours. So it saves me something like half hour maybe. But with my storage, most of my hay goes in a loft, dropping without restacking is not an option. Dropping in the barn would hinder loading the loft and may have clearance issues. So I would be dropping in front of the barn. Here again, If I am trying to beat the rain as is the norm, stacks outside would have to be moved inside adding more time to an already limited day. If on wheels I can park under roof and move out to place in the loft. In the end would have cost me more time. If you can drop right where you want to store it, well, that�s a different story.

If you haven�t been here there is a lot of info on bale wagons.

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kyhayman

04-12-2005 07:09:22




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 Re: new holland 1010 bale wagon in reply to tugboat tim, 04-11-2005 23:57:27  
3 issues here:

1. 1010 is one of the most difficult of the NH bale wagons. No push off feet, no auto tie. It is good to use into an elevator.

2. Slopes up to 10% arent too bad if you make sure that the second table dumps to the load rack going up hill or around the hill. Can go to 18% or so with the hill side kit.

3. a 1/4 turn chute is essential. They can be locally fabricated (I've made several).

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hydhorse

04-12-2005 06:16:26




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 Re: new holland 1010 bale wagon in reply to tugboat tim, 04-11-2005 23:57:27  
I use a NH 1012 here in sw Indiana.yes you do need the bales on edge.they have some hillside options ,but does work best on level.



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