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Planting Alfalfa

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Jeh

04-09-2005 10:48:55




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I"m planting 10 acres of alfalfa, the field has corn stalks from last fall. I usually just disc and cullipack then drill, but I"ve never done this over corn stalks. Will this method work for this field or should I try something different? I"m concerned that there will to much of the corn stalks left over and prevent the seed from making good contact with the soil. I would like hear any suggestions or opinions
Thanks, John

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JiminIA

04-10-2005 17:06:37




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 Re: Planting Alfalfa in reply to Jeh, 04-09-2005 10:48:55  
I just planted alfalfa into corn stalks last week,I too am used to plowing it. But I just disked it twice, rolled it, drilled it, and rolled it again. If you can try to disk it the second time caty wampus to the firts time. it should help....Jim



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RAW in IA

04-09-2005 18:48:45




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 Re: Planting Alfalfa in reply to Jeh, 04-09-2005 10:48:55  
We always plowed the corn ground before planting alfalfa & oats as a cover crop.(this was 40+ year ago.) Dad liked smooth hay fields and there weren't any stalks to plug the mower. Never had a field we couldn't drive the tractor in road gear in (except for a gopher mound or two). Didn't have to plow as deep for oats and hay ground as would for corn.



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jeh

04-09-2005 18:20:37




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 Re: Planting Alfalfa in reply to Jeh, 04-09-2005 10:48:55  
Thnaks for the replys!! I ran disc over it today, I think I will hit it at least once more tomorrow. As long as my drill dosn't plug up I think it will be ok
Thanks again!



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Dachshund

04-09-2005 18:27:28




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 Re: Planting Alfalfa in reply to jeh, 04-09-2005 18:20:37  
Yup! We used to use Turnips, radishes and rudabagas as nursecrops.



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JMS/MN

04-09-2005 16:17:08




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 Re: Planting Alfalfa in reply to Jeh, 04-09-2005 10:48:55  
Depends on your soil type. On our clay loam, that would not work well without primary tillage (plow, chisel). But a neighbor on lighter soil did just that for years- chopped silage before school started, (when his help left), then disked- maybe twice, and straight seeded alfalfa. Pulling a packer behind your drill will give better seed/soil contact. Seeds that hit the soil should grow. Grain drills do not insert the grass seed like they do the grain. Covering chains don't cover much seed.

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Allan in NE

04-09-2005 14:14:00




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 Re: Planting Alfalfa in reply to Jeh, 04-09-2005 10:48:55  
Hi John,

That's a hard one for one guy to call for another.

I personally think you are on the right track, perhaps disc multiple times at different angles?

As you already no doubt know, I really don't think you want to get into "plow" or 'chisel' situation.

But, this depends on your nurse crop, I would guess.

Allan



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ChrisL

04-09-2005 14:03:57




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 Re: Planting Alfalfa in reply to Jeh, 04-09-2005 10:48:55  
in our part of the country virtually all alfalfa is planted after corn....in old days disk twice, then plant alfalfa with oats as a nurse crop.....
nowadays, disk once wioth a great disk, maybe twice or more with a little disk, then weither plant with a nurse a crop or without.....
a lot of people have the fertilizer people put the seed on with the fertilizer..... no nurse crop - they would be planting it about now

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