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Tx Jim

04-07-2005 04:24:09




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I have baled 20,000 rolls with my baler and it still has original belts.I would rather relace or replace a belt than untangle the CHAIN on a chain baler.If baler are stored under cover belts will last several years.IMHO,Jim




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Larry in Pa.

04-07-2005 05:22:19




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 Re: Belts in reply to Tx Jim, 04-07-2005 04:24:09  
Amen to Tx Jim, as an owner of a NH 851 chain baler for the last 16 years my next baler will have belts.
The 851 served me well AFTER I spent over $1000 to replace the chain, but that was a long time ago. I bale in fear of the chain breaking for you are down for about two days. You also better have a place with a sturdy overhead beam to pull the chain up. With the price of steel as it is I would guess the price of a new chain would probably be equal to the value of the baler. I'm shopping for a belt baler.

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Allan in NE

04-07-2005 06:28:36




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 Re: Belts in reply to Larry in Pa., 04-07-2005 05:22:19  
Mornin' Larry,

I've always thought that the chainers have received the bad press because of the way they were used, not in the way they were designed.

A chain is a chain is a chain and being so, they warrant a little extra attention during use.

The key to keepin' those old sisters happy is to give 'em a drink of used engine oil every blessed day during use.

Any high speed chain will wear and break if it is allowed to run dry. Keep 'em oiled and they will darned near run forever.

Just my view,

Allan

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Hay Dr

04-07-2005 06:39:27




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 Re: Belts in reply to Allan in NE, 04-07-2005 06:28:36  
The use of engine oil is the #1 cause for baler fires.A bearing can fail on any MFG and the engine oil residue on the baler is almost impossible to extinguish if on fire. JD, Vermeer, & NH now recommend a dry lubricant like a chain lube foam that drys. Your chains will also last longer with a dry lubricant than if you are using a wet lubricant.



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RickB

04-07-2005 14:18:08




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 Re: Belts in reply to Hay Dr, 04-07-2005 06:39:27  
Failed bearings are the number one cause of baler fires. If there is no hot bearing, there is no fire. Period. Doesn't matter if there is a bunch of oil or a bunch of chaff, it will burn.



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Hay DR

04-07-2005 15:54:14




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 Re: Belts in reply to RickB, 04-07-2005 14:18:08  
Since we started switching customers to chain lube about 14 years ago we have not had one of these balers using chain lube catch on fire and do substantial damage. Yes the hot metal from the metal bearing going out causes the fire. The Chaff will burn but not as hot and as quick if there is oil residue present. The oil soaked chaff works as an accelerant and fuels the fire to burn hotter and spread quicker. Most of the time you can dump the bale and get away from it and the fire in the baler will go out because the fuel is gone. If the fire burns hot enough for long enough the belts and hydraulic hoses (full of flammable oil) will fuel the fire.
We have thousands of customers running balers out there and using chain lube has all but stopped balers from total loss due to fires burning the balers up. Take those old boilers off the balers and use chain lube. It works we seen the numbers first hand to prove it.

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Allan in NE

04-07-2005 06:50:41




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 Re: Belts in reply to Hay Dr, 04-07-2005 06:39:27  
Dunno, sure could be.

I always replaced bad bearings long before headin' to the field. They talk to ya if you just take the time to listen.

Allan



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paul

04-07-2005 06:18:28




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 Re: Belts in reply to Larry in Pa., 04-07-2005 05:22:19  
Chains are real hard on alfalfa as well - knock the leaves off.

--->Paul



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Ken Macfarlane

04-08-2005 10:45:15




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 Re: Belts in reply to paul, 04-07-2005 06:18:28  
I don't do the round bale thing but I hear of them burning all the time. No one seems to strap much of an extinguisher onto the things. A big old water filled or 25 lb dry chem extinguisher could probably save a lot of these balers.

Is it hard to eject a bale early on?

Most guys I've heard of losing balers just kinda park em, unhook the tractor and drive away...



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