More on equal angle hitch

Have a JD 530 baler; new purchase, never used it. Thought I would mount this "hootus" to my tractor and leave it there for cutting and baling.

So, would you happen to know if I should leave it on with the baler too or is it better to run the baler off the standard drawbar? Since I will be using one tractor for cutting and another for baling, it will be inconvenient if your answer is yes.

Thanks,

Mark

So it looks like if I trade tractors, the hootus follows.

Thanks for your inputs.
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I got the cutter all finished up and hooked it up to a tractor (with a hootus) and went out in the back and played with it. Could not believe how short a turn I could make with NO PTO noise. Just couldn't believe it.

I was so impressed, and since the majority of my lot is now green, that I am, this day changing my handle to "txgrn".

Sorry Henry, but John just got it all together and I can't ignore that fact any longer.

Mark

What the odd clamp hitch thingy does is allow the pto to bend better. Less wear, shorter turns.

Just using a stud on the drawbar works, but will put more stress on the pto shaft knuckles and cause hammering sooner on corners. What they are trying to do is extend your drawbar length so the pivot point is _exactly_ in the middle of the 2 U joints. This makes a better angle for the pto shaft.

I have seen red balers with this type of hitch as well.

Generally once you have it set up, it is pretty easy to take on/ off. Mine uses one pin, no bolts to deal with once you have the adjustments set the first time.

--->Paul

Your implement (I have both a 337 baler and a 1209 moco with this hitch) has a sort of "ball" of the sort found on 3pt hitch linkages, and this "ball" drops down over the upright pin, am I correct?

Those "equal angle hitches" come off and go on the tractor in about 3 seconds. You install the Hitch, onto the tractor drawbar first, and then back it under the implement. The hitch, due to the "ball joint" is actually a bit more forgiving when hitching up than a straight hitch pin would be.

I have also noticed a pivoting hitch, of a different type, also used on some implements, which resembles a hinged or pivoting "box" which you insert the tractor drawbar into.

I am unfamiliar with anything permanantly mounted to the drawbar, such that it would be time consuming or difficult to install or remove.

The two things I see this hitch doing are, A - Provide a hinge point between a long tractor and a long tongue (see point B). B - Removes the tongue wear problems on an extremely tongue heavy piece of equipment, by providing a hinge point between to fairly long pieces of equipment (see point A). Unlike the flip over when it gets worn out hitches you see on NH stuff. Not a bad idea at all and I like it.

But I would say the hitching is not as easy as "come off and go on the tractor in about 3 seconds". Yes you can put it on the draw bar in 3 seconds but that just the beginning. There are bolts on each side that need to be tighten up and jam nuts locked down. Now you have to get that stud pretty much right under the hole, unlike a draw bar that can be off a bit, rest the tongue weight on the draw bar and lean on it a bit to slide it over to insert pin. Your kind of busy running the jack, to apply to much influence guiding it on. Removal isn't as bad but if you, like me, only have 1 piece of equipment that uses this system so I have to remove it every time to do anything else. And that requires a large wrench to loosen the jam nuts and bolts. Plus it not a simple pull pin and drive away. Most everything else I have is, run jack up to just get weight off, pull pin, then drive off. This fella I have to crank it up over the pin, get back on tractor, pull forward, get down, remove hitch (I leave it with the mower), get back on tractor and go.

Perhaps "three seconds" is a bit inaccurate, but it does not take all that much time either. I have used this hitch for ten years on my Mower and my baler without problems!

Funny, I was thinking about using an implement pin too but I hadn't gone farther than thinking about it as it was only yesterday. Snagging hay is a problem with what I usually use (8" 3/4 grade 5 bolt.

I was in error though. I had the hootus on the baler tractor and was going to put just a pin on the cutter. Looks like I may have my priorities reversed; er ah pin with the baler, hootus with the cutter.

Since I have a manual with the baler I think I will revisit that section and pay attention to the hookup.

Thanks for solving the question for me (what pin will fit if any). A pin it is; just which tractor gets it.

Mark

Funny, I was thinking about using an implement pin too but I hadn't gone farther than thinking about it as it was only yesterday. Snagging hay is a problem with what I usually use (8" 3/4 grade 5 bolt.

I was in error though. I had the hootus on the baler tractor and was going to put just a pin on the cutter. Looks like I may have my priorities reversed; er ah pin with the baler, hootus with the cutter.

Since I have a manual with the baler I think I will revisit that section and pay attention to the hookup.

Thanks for solving the question for me (what pin will fit if any). A pin it is; just which tractor gets it.

Mark

Funny, I was thinking about using an implement pin too but I hadn't gone farther than thinking about it as it was only yesterday. Snagging hay is a problem with what I usually use (8" 3/4 grade 5 bolt.

I was in error though. I had the hootus on the baler tractor and was going to put just a pin on the cutter. Looks like I may have my priorities reversed; er ah pin with the baler, hootus with the cutter.

Since I have a manual with the baler I think I will revisit that section and pay attention to the hookup.

Thanks for solving the question for me (what pin will fit if any). A pin it is; just which tractor gets it.

Mark

Funny, I was thinking about using an implement pin too but I hadn't gone farther than thinking about it as it was only yesterday. Snagging hay is a problem with what I usually use (8" 3/4 grade 5 bolt.

I was in error though. I had the hootus on the baler tractor and was going to put just a pin on the cutter. Looks like I may have my priorities reversed; er ah pin with the baler, hootus with the cutter.

Since I have a manual with the baler I think I will revisit that section and pay attention to the hookup.

Thanks for solving the question for me (what pin will fit if any). A pin it is; just which tractor gets it.

Mark

It slips onto the hitch and has side bolts to tighten down but it has no ball and you normally leave it on the baler and back the tractor into it. It works well enough and is easy to use.

Towing with a truck you can just pull the doo-hickey off and tow on the other baler hitch.

I suppose a ball type affair would be good cause you can't use a tight pin with this setup, it would bind up. The hitch only takes a smallish pin anyways, smaller than any normal drawbar.