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MUDDY ROAD HELP!

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Mark B in Mi.

03-28-2005 17:56:39




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I take care of my private raod which is about a mile long. I am in Michigans Thumb and my road is a Mud Bog! It is muddy enough for my Truck tires to sink 4-6 inches while driving it.It has been this way for about 2 weeks now. I dont have $$ to just fill in with crushed Rock. Should I Grade it with my Back Blade, Disc it, Drag it or just leave it alone and let it dry on its own. Any help would be appriciated. Thanks

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Farmall Teen

03-31-2005 05:52:06




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 17:56:39  
We drag our driveway and it dries right up, my 2 cents



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burnie

03-30-2005 06:00:05




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 17:56:39  
Do you live close to a coal fired power plant ? If you do get some flyash to make a base and then later use rock of some sort or get some bottom ash for road. . In olden days when corn cobs were plentiful we would put them on and would help dry it up.



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MarkB_MI

03-29-2005 17:35:38




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 17:56:39  
The best tool I've found for working my driveway is a York rake. I've got an 8 footer with wheels; it does a nice job of leveling out the clay and bringing the gravel to the surface. Still, you need to wait until the road is dry enough support your tractor, otherwise you'll make a gawdawful mess.

If I had a mile-long road, I'd sure look for an old dump truck for hauling gravel. By the way, I think you can get crushed limestone right off the dock in Saginaw if you're out that way.

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Lou

03-29-2005 09:05:56




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 17:56:39  
The ditches are very helpful. Ive had good luck with a york rake, but the soil has to be fairly loose for it to work. Good Muck Lou



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Larry in Pa.

03-29-2005 07:21:05




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 17:56:39  
Probably one of the most important things on dirt roads is to keep a good "crown" so that it drains to both sides. Standing water on the road is your biggest problem, so grading a sharp crown(when it is dry) will elimate a lot of mud even in the spring.As mentioned earlier having a clean ditch for the water to drain off is important too.If you can improve your road someday putting down Geotextile to keep the stone from sinking into the mud is worth the money. Most quarries have some form of DSA,driving surface aggregate, and these are usually econmical and give a very durable road surface. Good luck.

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jhill

03-29-2005 05:44:58




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 17:56:39  
Mark B
I live near Caro and a lot of drive ways are bad this year. We need a warm rain to get the frost out and let the water sink in. Pulling your drag set a couple inches deep will open the soil and let it dry. This summmer you will need to rebuild your road as you have broken down the base. I am in the excavatin business near Caro call me if you need help. I have an add in the paper.

Jerry Hill

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John (MO)

03-29-2005 05:25:53




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 17:56:39  
Freezing and thawing over the winter really loosens the ground up and it holds lots of water. In the spring it"s just going to have to dry up and settle on it"s own. You don"t want to do anything that will loosen it more. Make sure your ditches are good and drain water away as it comes out of the soil in the road bed. Remove trees so more sun and wind can get to the road bed. Then just wait it out.

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Feron

03-29-2005 04:28:20




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 17:56:39  
I would leave it alone while the frost is comming out of the ground, If you grade it all you will do is bring more water to the surface. That means more mud, Give it another week



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Leland

03-28-2005 19:52:24




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 17:56:39  
Look for ground up ashpalt this makes a good base but they are right cut some ditches then use a chisel plow and take about 6-8" out this will keep rock in place . Or cut back trees so a breeze can get thru so it will dry out.



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dr.sportster

03-28-2005 18:59:21




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 17:56:39  
My driveway is the old county road surface but the road down to my barn had problems.I hooked up with a mason who would dump alot of unwanted gravel dirt combo stuff and occasionally left over gravel.Then I would backdrag it out with the snowplow on my A.Trouble was he got carried away and started leaving some larger concrete chunks.Kinda had to tell him to stop delivering.I think alot the good stuff was QP[quarry product].Locked the gravel together due to its various sizes.It was free I cant complain.

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old

03-28-2005 18:26:43




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 17:56:39  
Sounds like you need a ditch on one side or the other and yes you also need more gravel.



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Mark B in Mi.

03-28-2005 18:35:17




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to old, 03-28-2005 18:26:43  
I have deep Ditches on both sides of the Road and water appears to be draining into them.. This road is through mostly Woods, maybe the woods stop the breeze to dry up the road??



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old

03-28-2005 18:50:22




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 Re: MUDDY ROAD HELP! in reply to Mark B in Mi., 03-28-2005 18:35:17  
Sounds like you just plain need gravel then. I know how it is my drive is a mile long but I'm lucky I have a creek full of gravel.



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