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screaminghollow

03-19-2005 22:38:12




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Yesterday at a local mud sale, I bought a forage wagon that someone had partially reworked. I really don"t want the unloading hardware, I want a hay wagon. I figure $50.00 was cheap just for the running gear if I throw the rest away, although I"ll probably use the sides and floor. as is, for hay. It is 7 foot wide and about 22 feet long. I will remove most of the hardware an auger at the front so I can load bales right off the baler.
Dragging it home of course was another thing. The rear wheels tracked about eight inches closer to the center of the road than the front wheels, and it swayed terribly at any speed over 15 mph. is there an easy way to correct the tracking of the wheels so it travels straighter? pull right side of rear axle a quarter inch forward maybe?? Also, can I reverse the direction of the unloader, so I can have the bales dumped off the rear of the wagon? (That could be useful for firewood too.)

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JMS/MN

03-21-2005 11:10:32




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 Re: wagon running gear question in reply to screaminghollow, 03-19-2005 22:38:12  
If you pulled the right side of the rear axle forward it would only make it worse. Like others said- the reach is probably bent. Here, we call it a reach- the pipe that connects the front and rear wishbones of a factory running gear. Sight along the length of it. They are commonly bent by getting the wagon stuck in mud and powering them out with a couple of tractors hooked to it. Easy to straighten- you need one tractor, two anchors, and three log chains. The anchors can be trees, buildings, cars, tractors, MIL, etc. Two anchors on the convex side, one tractor and chain on the concave side, and pull ahead slowly until the reach is straight. The swaying in transport is because of slop in the front steering linkage- slop in bolt holes, worn bushings (if they exist), tie rod ends, spindle bushings, bolt or support at the rear of the tongue, where it attaches to the running gear. Very typical for farm trailers- they were not intended for highway speeds, although more recent models from major builders often trailed well up to 30-40 mph.

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ET

03-20-2005 14:06:00




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 Re: wagon running gear question in reply to screaminghollow, 03-19-2005 22:38:12  
CHECK THE TOE IN ON THE FRONT WHEELS, IT SHOULD BE 1/8 TO 1/4".



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RickB

03-20-2005 03:31:04




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 Re: wagon running gear question in reply to screaminghollow, 03-19-2005 22:38:12  
You have a bent reach, or one axle is bent so it is not perpendicular to the reach. Gotta get under there and see what is bent, and determine the best fix. We can't see it from here. A new chunk of pipe to replace the reach should be pretty cheap.



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dilbert

03-20-2005 12:14:32




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 Re: wagon running gear question in reply to RickB, 03-20-2005 03:31:04  
Reach? I think most of us know that part as a coupling pole.Maybe its a regional term.



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kyhayman

03-21-2005 06:54:04




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 Re: wagon running gear question in reply to dilbert, 03-20-2005 12:14:32  
I'm with you, never heard tell of a 'reach' before. I learn something new every day.



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JMS/MN

03-21-2005 11:18:37




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 Re: wagon running gear question in reply to kyhayman, 03-21-2005 06:54:04  
So what are they called there? I always figured they were called reaches because they would reach from the front to the rear axle, and if you mounted a longer box, rack, etc. on them, they could reach farther because they had several holes to adjust the length. When I built some 18 foot bale thrower racks I had to 'reach' for extra pipe to add to them because the factory reaches did not reach far enough! And if you modify a running gear to fit a 20-25 foot combine header, that is really a 'reach'.

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kyhayman

03-21-2005 12:35:53




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 Re: wagon running gear question in reply to JMS/MN, 03-21-2005 11:18:37  
Coupling pole is the local reference, speculating it dates back to the day when it was a real 'pole' instead of a piece of pipe. When I got my grand dads place I found a couple of old wagons that still had wooden poles and wooden tongues, on iron wheels. Guess thats like I had never heard of a the 'flat' referred to as a hay rack or flat rack until I was on here. Around here a hay rack is the 'v' shaped slatted wooden thing that folks use to feed square bales.

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Dave Sherburne,NY

03-20-2005 20:28:22




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 Re: wagon running gear question in reply to dilbert, 03-20-2005 12:14:32  
Its a reach to the more mature individuals like
me.



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RickB

03-20-2005 12:51:30




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 Re: wagon running gear question in reply to dilbert, 03-20-2005 12:14:32  
Probably so. Most of "us" never heard of a coupling pole.



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