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Keeping plow in ground

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jra

03-18-2005 20:53:43




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I have a 3-14" ford and a 4-16" MF plow. I'm having trouble geting them to stay in the ground over 3 or 4 in. deep. anyone know what could be wrong? hard ground, woren plow parts?




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FH

03-19-2005 13:30:21




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 Re: Keeping plow in ground in reply to jra, 03-18-2005 20:53:43  
Definitely agree with the others on shares and dry ground. Try shortening the top link slightly so that the back plow is 'slightly' up, it will get the front plow to 'dig in' and 'maybe' keep the plow deep. I have to adjust when changing fields sometimes. Conversely, if the back plow is too far up it will only plow shallow, and that's the one you see and drive in so it makes you think the whole set of plows are not deep enough.

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Tim(nj)

03-19-2005 15:32:51




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 Re: Keeping plow in ground in reply to FH, 03-19-2005 13:30:21  
Also, in some conditions the hitch linkages might have to be set so that the plow frame is an inch or so lower on the share side then the moldboard side instead of running level. I had to do this in some hard clay with my grandfather"s JD 416 3-point plow. Even with new shares, running perfectly level it wouldn"t go in. The tilt gave it just enough more suck to get it to work.



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TP from Central PA

03-19-2005 06:39:30




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 Re: Keeping plow in ground in reply to jra, 03-18-2005 20:53:43  
We had places on our farm where the trailer plows(3-14 IH #60"s) would ride right up out of the ground. This was even with new shares..... ....The only thing that would stay in the ground in these spots was a set of IH 540"s on a fast-hitch tractor(400/560) and this was using the hitch for down pressure.



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Allan in NE

03-19-2005 05:47:52




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 Re: Keeping plow in ground in reply to jra, 03-18-2005 20:53:43  
Hi JRA,

I pretty much agree with the other guys.

Only two things that will keep a plow outta the ground: Dry, hard, compacted soil and plow lathes that have no "suck".

Fact is, it sould always be trying to go "deeper" and restrained only by it's depth control. If you have to "force" a plow in the ground, something is way, way wrong.

Allan



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Clarke

03-18-2005 23:08:32




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 Re: Keeping plow in ground in reply to jra, 03-18-2005 20:53:43  
Had the same problem here in So. Mi. Oliver 5-16". New points made a world of difference. Actually had to use the traction booster, (AC200D),to keep it from diving too deep.



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Hugh MacKay

03-18-2005 22:58:38




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 Re: Keeping plow in ground in reply to jra, 03-18-2005 20:53:43  
jra: If you've run out of adjustments, my bet is you have points and shares worn beyond use.

The other possibility is too dry. You haven't said if your trying to plow right now, or exactly where on the map you are plowing. There are places and types of soil you just can not plow if it's too dry. Usually this will happen during the hot summer months.



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txblu

03-20-2005 06:38:35




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 Re: Keeping plow in ground in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-18-2005 22:58:38  
N. Texas Houston Black Clay for one.



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Hugh MacKay

03-20-2005 07:01:19




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 Re: Keeping plow in ground in reply to txblu, 03-20-2005 06:38:35  
Mark: I think we could include most clays from Gulf of Mexico to Artic Circle and Atlantic to Pacific. Now I haven't seen them all, but suspect they all have one thing in common, (TOUGH)



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txblu

03-20-2005 08:45:35




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 Re: Keeping plow in ground in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-20-2005 07:01:19  
Can"t say personally but you are probably right.

Mark



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paul

03-18-2005 21:12:55




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 Re: Keeping plow in ground in reply to jra, 03-18-2005 20:53:43  
Not familiar with your 'brands'.

Are they trailer, 3pt, semi mounted, ???

If 3pt, need to get them angled right with the top link. Doesn't always need to go in the direction you think it needs to, try both directions if one doesn't work. Mostly it should be level, but a little finesee can make a huge difference.

For any, new plow lays (the bottom cutting edge) with a good peak on will generally be _the_ solution. Dad used to heat & pound down the tips (a bit) to make worn ones suck in again, but that is rather desperate cheapness on a part that is worn out & too much wear will cause other parts to start wearing....

Hard _dry_ ground (esp clay) will also cause this. On a trailer plow you often found a good sized rock sitting on the frame to help them get in & stay in.

--->Paul

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