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# of Plow Bottoms / hp of tractor?

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fullsircle

03-17-2005 18:48:22




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I'd appreciate any advice on an average calculation when figuring what size of plow to match with a tractor. I know the soil condition, etc. has a play in things, but I'd like to get an idea on what size of plow can be pulled buy how many hp tractors. I have a JD 4020 (93hp) and a Case 1570 (180 hp) and would rather not stay out all week with the 4020 plowing... Thanks in advance




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BushogPapa

03-20-2005 11:52:58




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 Re: # of Plow Bottoms / hp of tractor? in reply to fullsircle, 03-17-2005 18:48:22  
For a 14" plow bottom in "average" soil, it takes at least 1,000 lbs of pulling power... In heavy soils, that could go to 1,500 lbs per bottom... Not all tractors will develop the lbs of pull that others will..so HP may not be a good measurement.. Tire condition, and weights make a huge difference, too... Condition of the plow bottoms make ALL the difference in how hard a plow will pull, too...!! A WELL-Scoured plow will pull easily 1/2 as hard as an un-scoured plow.. A Rusty plow is a Disaster...!!!!! !!!!

Ron..

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paul

03-18-2005 16:50:23




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 Re: # of Plow Bottoms / hp of tractor? in reply to fullsircle, 03-17-2005 18:48:22  
In my soils I would hang a 4-16 or _maybe_ a 4-18 on the 4020.

The Case would go a 6-18 or 6-20.

Many people can add a bottom over what my soils require - I have heavy wet clays.

I prefer going a bit faster, & shifting down for the hard spots, over going slower with a too big plow, & then stopping when the going gets hard...

I'm using a 4-18 on a 135 hp tractor, & there are times I really know it is there. Most times I could drag a 5-18 tho.

--->Paul

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Gerald J.

03-17-2005 19:36:42




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 Re: # of Plow Bottoms / hp of tractor? in reply to fullsircle, 03-17-2005 18:48:22  
It depends a great deal on your soil and your plow.

I'm using a 3x18 AC 2000 Monobeam on my 4020. Most of my ground I can plow in 5th gear at 5.5 mph. The spots that are a bit wetter, I have to go down a gear. I'm plowing about 7" deep. I started out plowing with 4x 18 on the same plow, with no weights on the front running at 3.5 mph in 3rd gear. In alfalfa and damp, I couldn't keep the front wheels close to the ground. Could have been that the hitch was too high. Before I went back to plowing I lowered the hitch, took off a bottom, added all the weights I had (some 380 pounds) to the front and with 3x 18 at 5.5 mph I cover more acres per day than I did with 4x18 at 3.5 mph. Since then I've added loader for front weight too.

I don't hear great histories of the Case '70 series rear axles when worked hard. They get expensive to fix, I've heard. But if the 1570 would stay together with a plow on back it ought to move at least 7 x 18, compared to the 4020, if it also has traction enough. Case and IH have made some nice plows with lots of stalk clearance. My AC isn't bad but I can plug it with corn stalks.

Going fast the ground gets pulverized as its tossed down and the field is fairly smooth except at the dead furrows. Parts of it generally don't show ridges to show its been plowed, its that smooth.

Oh, my AC bottoms are 392, odd and shins were expensive to find.

Gerald J.

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msb

03-17-2005 19:13:35




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 Re: # of Plow Bottoms / hp of tractor? in reply to fullsircle, 03-17-2005 18:48:22  
Old rule of thumb around here was 15 drawbar horsepower per bottom--not PTO horsepower.



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Allan in NE

03-18-2005 07:25:22




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 Re: # of Plow Bottoms / hp of tractor? in reply to msb, 03-17-2005 19:13:35  
I agree,

I always figured 25 PTO horse per bottom; just makes for a nicer finished lay to the soil.

Allan



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Joe(TX)

03-18-2005 07:53:21




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 Re: # of Plow Bottoms / hp of tractor? in reply to Allan in NE, 03-18-2005 07:25:22  
It depends on the size of the bottoms also. 3 14's take less horsepower than 3 16's, 3-18's etc



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