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international B47 baler

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ben uk

02-22-2005 09:10:41




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Hi guys

Got a B47 that has sat for 10 years (free!) Looks preety good. I steam cleaned it and then soaked it with a mixture of diesel and oil, greased up all of the grease points.

Hooked it up to the 135 yesterday (i know, little short on power, but best ive got!) and it wont go, turns a little bit, then jammed solid. Seems to be the "rammer (going up and down to compress they hay, dont know the proper term!) because that small amount of slack that it does have seems to be it taking up the slack in the linkage on the push rod.

Any ideas on how to get it unjammed. I didnt give it that much welly, worried about breaking something! Any ideas on how to un jam her? (I have NO experience with balers!)

Thanks

Ben

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jb2

02-25-2005 11:00:00




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 Re: international B47 baler in reply to ben uk, 02-22-2005 09:10:41  
Hi Ben, those balers had an emergency stop block in the bottom middle of bale chamber just in front of the holes for the needles for the knotter. The purpose of this stop block is to prevent the plunger from hitting the needles if they did not retracted for some reason. The stop block had a spring on it that sometimes broke. The stop block is located in the bottom middle of the bale chamber just behind the axle. Verify that it is in the retracted position ie not sticking up in the path of the plunger.

Good luck
JB2

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ben uk

02-25-2005 11:08:50




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 Re: international B47 baler in reply to jb2, 02-25-2005 11:00:00  
Thanks, ill check that out tomorrow.

Soaked it in penetrating oil again today, all along the rail. Guess if its not that stop block then ill do this a few more times and give it another go.

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Ben



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Roy in UK

02-22-2005 23:26:11




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 Re: international B47 baler in reply to ben uk, 02-22-2005 09:10:41  
Ben,
When ( I did not say if! ) you get your baler running, your 135 will handle it surprisingly well. Dad used to run a Claas baler on a FE35 (yellow belly) and when we had a bit of a prob. with a 165 I put our 135 on the Allis-Chalmers 300 (Jones with orange paint ) and it did really well. Only thing was the 135 was 6 speed, the 165 was multipower which is very handy for baling. I just remembered. Later on We had a Claas Maximum small square baler which we ran on a 168 usually.For some reason the 168 was tied up with another job so old faithfull 135 came to the rescue again. It pulled the thing baling straw behind a Matador in 1st high with a sledge behind, she coughed and rocked little bit but it was great fun. Wait till you here that Perkins 3/152 baling ! "Doom - doom - doom - doom - doom !"

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Tim A.

02-22-2005 19:24:54




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 Re: international B47 baler in reply to ben uk, 02-22-2005 09:10:41  
Ben,

Don't know anything about this specific baler, but I am assuming that it is a small square baler. I think you were referring to the "plunger" that goes back and forth to compress the hay. The way I have unstuck one is first power wash the chamber real well. Then soak it top and bottom along the rails with a good penetrating oil. After a while, I started rocking the fly wheel by hand back and forth and kept pooring the penetrating oil to her. I did this with a JD 346 that sat in a field for about 7 years with hay in the chamber. I also have experience with a newer model NH 570 that sat for about 2 years. It was not stuck, but stiff, and the first time I baled with it the rails (metal plates that the bearings etc ride on) got very hot...called it quits before I burned it to the ground. Long story short, the rust built up underneath the rails (between the rails, shims and bale cavity) and caused the plunger to fit way too tight. Once you get it unstuck, you will probably want to pull the plunger (yes, all the way out the back of the cavity using a chain and come along) to inpect the bearings etc. and to sharpen the knives. Be very careful working near the knives with the plunger installed...if you get it moving very smooth, and the arm is overcenter, the plunger could move backward if you bumped the machine and there goes a few fingers...

Good Luck,

Tim

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