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NH 570 Baler NH Bale Wagon

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Ohio Hay Guy

02-22-2005 04:39:59




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Hi Hay Guys, I just purchased a NH 570 baler. It replaces a NH276 baler. We will be using it to bale for a bale wagon. I would appreciate any tips that will help me make good bales (uniform size and good density). We do alfalfa and orchard grass for the horse market. I would also appreciate any tips on things to watch our for in running and maintaining the 570 baler.

Thanks.




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RickL

02-23-2005 05:41:52




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 Re: NH 570 Baler NH Bale Wagon in reply to Ohio Hay Guy, 02-22-2005 04:39:59  
I have a 570 bought think been about 5 years ago now from estate. Fellow order it in new died before got it,anyway it has been a project. I added bale chamber extension to it didn't seem to do much difference. Hyd tension I can't tell any difference than the manual springs. The adjustable side wedges you will get with the chamber lengthen kit. I also have some extra bale case wedges that have never been used still n the wrappers came in. I had green before and so far it was alot better at making uniform bales. Hopefully this season will be better after winter modifications to it otherwise it will be for sale and will go back to grreen unit. give me a shout if I can help you any,also double check the timing of the feed chamber forks in relation to the packer fork as mine was wrong straight from the factory.

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Hayman

02-23-2005 06:31:03




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 you need those wedges up front in reply to RickL, 02-23-2005 05:41:52  
You need the 4 wedges up front right behind the plunger 2 on each side. They are used to help hold the hay charge in place. Just like what JD&hesston does with them cheese grater gizmos they bolt right behind the plunger.

Then if bale density is an issue you can add them to the chamber farther back etc. to make a firmer bale in dry hay etc.


What seems to be the problem with the bales? Made lots and lots of square bales and never needed bale case extensions. I know guys use them for timothy in order to get really heavy dense bales for export hay etc.

How heavy of bale are you aiming for and what type of crop are you baling.

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RickB

02-22-2005 14:01:18




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 Re: NH 570 Baler NH Bale Wagon in reply to Ohio Hay Guy, 02-22-2005 04:39:59  
A bale case extension is very helpful. Hydroformatic is a big plus, but spendy to add after the fact. Consistent size windrows is a must. Maintaining a consistent feed rate and plunger strokes per bale are the most important goals. If you can do that, and adjust the packer fork to fill the chamber evenly at that rate, you will be fine. For the price, I would add as many bale case wedges as there are holes for, I believe 6 will fit in. You could also consider mounting adjustable wedges such as found on the 575.

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tugboat tim

02-22-2005 12:11:02




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 Re: NH 570 Baler NH Bale Wagon in reply to Ohio Hay Guy, 02-22-2005 04:39:59  
hopefully steve from new holland responds to your question as he seems to be most knowledgeable and very unbiassed. I look at all his responces he gives out and learn so mutch I should send him a Christmas card. Can't answer anything on the 570 cause it seems to be way out of my price range however if you have any pet peaves about the 276 I would be most greatfull i have a downpayment on one now till i get off the water and get home to pick it up.

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Hayman

02-22-2005 20:05:59




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 Re: NH 570 Baler NH Bale Wagon in reply to tugboat tim, 02-22-2005 12:11:02  
Tim as I've posted before on here I have 3 older NH balers and I sell 1000's of square bales for a living.

Maybe it's just us but we've had excellent service out of them old NH278 balers.

Get an owner's manual and adjust and check the baler acordingly. There is not much too a square baler for moving parts and if properly maintained should run trouble free.



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Ohio Hay Guy

02-22-2005 17:11:05




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 Re: NH 570 Baler NH Bale Wagon in reply to tugboat tim, 02-22-2005 12:11:02  
Tim, I too have learned a great deal from Steve and some of the other guys. I hope they weigh in on my questions. The 570 was a big strech for us as well. But I had to choose between baler school and making hay. Our 276 was 30+ years old, well used,previously neglected and falling apart faster than a combine. With that said it was a great machine, in its prime. It was capable of 300 or so bales an hour, but the bales looked like heck (O.K. for cows. Not great for horses). Slow and easy produced uniform bales 150/hr. Oil and grease are real important as are, an annual cleaning (made me feel better). I had to keep an eye on the PTO to Flywheel bolt. I encourage you to ckeck the pickup finger arm bearings and the plunger arm bearing, sharp knives are important,knife and plunger clearances/timing, keep it covered or inside,and get a manual. The 276 rarley dropped a knot. I hope my comments are of some use. Email me if I can be of further assistance.

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Ohio Hay Guy

02-22-2005 17:10:25




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 Re: NH 570 Baler NH Bale Wagon in reply to tugboat tim, 02-22-2005 12:11:02  
Tim, I too have learned a great deal from Steve and some of the other guys. I hope they weigh in on my questions. The 570 was a big strech for us as well. But I had to choose between baler school and making hay. Our 276 was 30+ years old, well used,previously neglected and falling apart faster than a combine. With that said it was a great machine, in its prime. It was capable of 300 or so bales an hour, but the bales looked like heck (O.K. for cows. Not great for horses). Slow and easy produced uniform bales 150/hr. Oil and grease are real important as are, an annual cleaning (made me feel better). I had to keep an eye on the PTO to Flywheel bolt. I encourage you to ckeck the pickup finger arm bearings and the plunger arm bearing, sharp knives are important,knife and plunger clearances/timing, keep it covered or inside,and get a manual. The 276 rarley dropped a knot. I hope my comments are of some use. Email me if I can be of further assistance.

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Tim A.

02-22-2005 19:40:34




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 Re: NH 570 Baler NH Bale Wagon in reply to Ohio Hay Guy, 02-22-2005 17:10:25  
I purchased a 1999 NH 570 last spring at an auction...I was told that it sat for 2 years and it still had hay in the chamber when I bought it. The auctioneer said something about the original owner winning the lottery and getting out of farming. Don't know how true it is. But, I had problems with the plunger...initially it was real tight and I thought it was from surface rust. Well, when I baled with it the first time, the slides got real hot. Pulled the plunger and eventually the rails on top and bottom of the plunger. The rust had built up real bad (seemed to be about 1/8 thick in places)and caused the rails to bow up between the bolts. Replaced the rails and shims and she runs smooth as silk now. Don't know why it rusted to bad so fast, but I would reccommend shedding it for sure.

Also, there was some damage to the pickup...looked like they ran into something..maybe more than once. Anyways, replaced a bunch of pieces on the pickup. All said, I put about $400 in a baler I paid $3200 for originally. I think I am still doing ok on this one.

Now...if I could just afford the bale wagon and the barn big enough to stack the bales in...

Good Luck,

Tim

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