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Ford 532 baler problem

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Brad Bachelor

02-20-2005 04:11:00




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Howdy guys, I've got a problem I was hoping you could help me with.
This guy gave me a Ford 532 baler and two 530 parts balers. He said the 532 worked except the shaft was broken on the flywheel gear housing (the 90 degree one going into the baler that drives the plunger). He bought the 530's thinking the gear housing would bolt up. It ends up being too short and the flywheel doesn't clear the front of the baler.

I took the thing apart and I think I can just replace the gear with the broken shaft. My question is, would the 530 gear fit in the 532 gearbox? If not, do you know where I can get the gear?

I drove 180 miles yesterday hauling his three balers to my place (at 25 mph). I hope this works out..... ..

Thanks,
Brad

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Brad Bachelor

02-20-2005 15:02:25




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 Re: Ford 532 baler problem in reply to Brad Bachelor, 02-20-2005 04:11:00  
Thanks for the tips and the link. I think I may try to fix this thing up!!
Brad



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Jerry D in NC

02-21-2005 09:01:47




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 Re: Ford 532 baler problem in reply to Brad Bachelor, 02-20-2005 15:02:25  
A wise choice. The Ford line of balers were a good economy baler that uses the same knotters as JD and NH so don't be afraid. I guess my first question to you is why does the 532 need to be the working baler. Are both of the 530's beyond repair. There is very little difference between the two. They both are the same basic baler with a few modifications and the same capacity. My 530 has been a fairly dependable baler that makes a nice shaped bale in grass, straw or alfalfa. I got your email but do not exactly understand which part you are talking about, so a bit more description or a picture would help

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Jerry D in NC

02-21-2005 12:28:01




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 Re: Ford 532 baler problem in reply to Jerry D in NC, 02-21-2005 09:01:47  
OK Got the email and now understand that the 530s are beyond it but today is your lucky day. From the picture you sent I understand that the gears are OK but the shaft that drives the plunger arm is what has broken. If the gears are OK then you are in luck because the gears do not cross reference between the 530 and 532 but the shaft does. You should be able to press off the gear from the broken shaft and put it on a shaft from the 530. I would start with pressing the gear off the 530 for practice.... LOL

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Errin OH

02-20-2005 11:01:44




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 Re: Ford 532 baler problem in reply to Brad Bachelor, 02-20-2005 04:11:00  
Hey Brad, don't give up on that ford just yet. Those NH are a little over rated. I run a Ford I4-80 (1958). Paid $85 for it, put $25 in drive line, and have it working like a new one and kick'n out 200+ nice and tight, "square" bales an hour. Pice-o-crap NH68, with grass growing in the chamber, brings $600 just for parts.

As for you troubles, I do not have the answer. I'll ping Jerry D and see if he can help. He is the 53x series guru around here. If those parts won't inter change I'm sure hell know.

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Billy NY

02-20-2005 10:18:58




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 Re: Ford 532 baler problem in reply to Brad Bachelor, 02-20-2005 04:11:00  
I'm not sure what the broken part looks like, but you can try contacting the people at the link posted below, he does some unique repairs to things that are seemingly junk to most people, using process's he's developed. He was on another equipment bulletin board letting people know about his services.

We had a 532 for years, and I'll be honest, I'm not too sure about what inherent problems these had as I was kid at the time. Ours had a kicker on it which was removed because it used to cause more problems than it was worth, used to sever the bale twine on the bales, belts were seemingly a pain to deal with too. I recall the knotters being tinkered with on occasion, my father had a friend who would work on it, as he never seemed to be sucessful dealing with the knotters himself and he was mechanically capable, I guess everyone has something that will stump you at some time or other. Overall, I did not think it was all that bad of a baler, as we baled quite a bit of hay with it over the years, only reason we had it was because we had a Ford tractor dealership for many years, so most of what we had was Ford.

I don't have the link, but there is actually a Ford Baler Association, possibly some one could post the link for you. I'd think you might get some addtional assistance there.

It's like most equipment, I'd give it a shot and see what happens, you may end up tinkering with it more than other kinds of balers. Since we had one, I was always curious as to the reputation they had, and what experiences others had with them. I assumed that they were not overly popular, but ironically there were quite a few sold out of our dealership. The other brands were definitely selling more it seems. I'm lead to believe that the mower conditioners and balers Ford made were more problematic than other brands, now I'm not sure if that was by design and construction or they just did not hold up as well as others after significant hours were put on them due to the design. We had 2 mower conditioners and I recall my father working on them to keep them going, but any equipment can be a pain if not properly cared for and maintained.

I know one thing, it is the worst when a baler needs repair and you have to stop baling, then add the impending doom of a thundestorm or rain on the horizon, thats when you'll really form an opinion quickly of any piece of equipment LOL !!! At least you are on it early being it's the middle of Feb., I'd have a back up plan in case though, say a spare baler or someone else to be ready to bale for you, if that 532 does not cooperate, at least you won't be stuck with hay down and no way to bale.

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RickB

02-20-2005 05:03:12




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 Re: Ford 532 baler problem in reply to Brad Bachelor, 02-20-2005 04:11:00  
If you are talking about the output shaft that bolts to the ring gear, it should. The ring and pinion are different, though. If there is a scrapyard nearby you could cash all three in and put the proceeds towards a NH or Deere baler.



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John Hobby

02-20-2005 06:51:49




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 Re: Ford 532 baler problem in reply to RickB, 02-20-2005 05:03:12  
I bought a Ford baler cheap from a guy ( Hey Jim, is was from Panachelli in Medway ) and it was a toilet. Maybe that is why they don't make them. I would do like th eother guys said, trade them in on NH or JD. Hey, at least he gave them to you, I paid for mine.



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Brad Bachelor

02-20-2005 07:50:32




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 Re: Ford 532 baler problem in reply to John Hobby, 02-20-2005 06:51:49  
Uh-oh, have I gotten a lemon brand of baler? I was hoping I could have this thing fixed up by haying season.
The guy told me the shaft was the only thing wrong with it. I'd sure hate to scrap it if it would work out (now the 530's are gone as soon as I've scavenged all the parts off).
Brad



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DavidA

02-22-2005 10:32:35




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 Re: Ford 532 baler problem in reply to Brad Bachelor, 02-20-2005 07:50:32  
No you don't have a lemon. At this age or any baler this age they are only as good as the person working on them. Get the manual, which is still available through New Holland, and make sure everything is to speck. I have bought a 532 several years ago and ran 20,000 bales through it with no problems. One spring it broke a knotter frame on the fist bale. I had to buy a parts baler to fix it. The gear that turned the bill hook had warn and hung up on the drive disk, so instead of the gear and bill hook turning the whole knotter frame turned and broke.

Pull the plunger, check for roller ware, make sure all of the hay dogs are there, check the knotter gear clearances, bill hook condition, wiper arm to bill hook clearance, twin disk tension, sharpen you twin knifes and the knifes on the plunger and the stationarey knifes.

Put it back together by the manual, set the timing and you will have a good working bailer for several years. May have to do a little adjusting to the twin disk tension and bill hook tension on the first trip to the field. But the manual will have pictures of bad knots and how to correct them.

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Inahastation

02-21-2005 08:20:49




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 Re: Ford 532 baler problem in reply to Brad Bachelor, 02-20-2005 07:50:32  
I run a 532 baler here at the experiment station in Georgia. It had been pretty much abandoned, no one could get it to work. Like most(or all other balers) a little time spent with the owners manual put it back in the field. No, it's not the best baler I've ever run, but it does a decent job. Parts has not been a problem, except for the stationary knife.



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