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Color scheme of Superior Grain Drill

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Adam Davis

02-01-2005 17:15:16




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What are the colors supposed to be on a Superior drill. The box is wooden and the frame and wheels are steel. It has a wooden grass seed box as well. I also know where a set of rubber tires and spoke rims are for it. The box appears to be red and the spoked rubber tire rims are a shade of green. Also does anybody know how to fix the drop tubes from the main box on these, some of them are missing. Will these drills work with bean seed to drill beans similar to the newer bean drills? Tim(NJ) replied to an earlier post I wrote saying "Problem you will have is that it won"t meter down low enough for soybeans in 7 inch rows, unless it has the reducers (which most don"t)." What does he mean by meter down low enough for 7 in rows? Thanks
Adam Davis

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R Wyler

02-02-2005 18:00:40




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 Re: Color scheme of Superior Grain Drill in reply to Adam Davis, 02-01-2005 17:15:16  
Hello Adam I am not sure about the color of the Superior drills I am thinking they had some red on them. Are you the one I sent the New Idea mower bracket to? How did it work? Send me an e-mail sometime. R Wyler



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Adam Davis

02-02-2005 20:05:39




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 Re: Color scheme of Superior Grain Drill in reply to R Wyler, 02-02-2005 18:00:40  
Yes you sent the New Idea sickle mower part to me and it worked great. I also made a new pitman for it. I do need to put new blades on the mower as the old ones were rusted and pitted. Thats going to be a spring job as I want to use it this year behind my 52 Allis Chalmers WD. There is a picture of it I just posted on the implement photos.
Take care and I'll let you know how it does when I get the blades changed.
Adam Davis

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J. Schwiebert

02-02-2005 21:01:38




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 Re: Color scheme of Superior Grain Drill in reply to Adam Davis, 02-02-2005 20:05:39  
I think the Floyd County Museum can get you a seed chart. You can find their e-mail address on the Oliver page, somebody will have it or I can look for it tomorrow. People used to sow beans with them but you need to have soil prepared. How good are the disks on your openers?



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rickm

02-02-2005 17:43:00




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 Re: Color scheme of Superior Grain Drill in reply to Adam Davis, 02-01-2005 17:15:16  
Adam, I have a model 26 on steel. Grandpa bought it new in 1947(I have the original invoice).The mainframe is red as are the wheels.The fertilzer and seed boxes and clover seed boxes are Oliver Green . I can't remember the setting for beans. Haven't drilled beans with it for a LONG time. Problem with using this light drill is that the ground has to be properly worked and fairly dry to get the chains to cover the beans.
Hope this helps. BTW, the operating book isn't much help. It says see the chart in the seed box.

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James2

02-03-2005 06:14:00




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 Re: Color scheme of Superior Grain Drill in reply to rickm, 02-02-2005 17:43:00  
I agree with this color scheme. We also had a Superior grain drill that I spent may hours riding on. Isn't it amazing that a 8 year old child could ride and never get injured with all that mechanism running particularly the spoked steel wheels. We just knew better. Responsibility was to pick up any rocks and carry them on the rear step board. It was sometines a struggle to run with a larger stone and catch the speeding drill.

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Tim(nj)

02-03-2005 06:25:32




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 Green=post war, red=pre war in reply to James2, 02-03-2005 06:14:00  
Green boxes with red lettering were after WWII, red boxes with yellow lettering were before. Frame was red on the green ones, and green on the red ones. Wheels were red on the green ones, but I"ve not seen a red one with paint left on the wheels, so green wheels is a guess.



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Adam Davis

02-03-2005 09:56:08




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 Re: Green=post war, red=pre war in reply to Tim(nj), 02-03-2005 06:25:32  
So if it had a green frame they had green rims or if they had a red frame they had green rims. Thanks for your help on the colors, I hope to be able to purchase it since it was my great uncles drill (my grandpa also used it from time to time) They pulled it behind a Farmall H usually (Which is still around too and good shape might I add). It has been sitting in a barn for years and when they went to put thier cattle trailer inside they pulled it out and put it underneath an oak tree. Needs new wood for the boxes and some other small parts but is otherwise in good shape.
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Adam Davis

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James2

02-03-2005 10:33:40




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 Re: Green=post war, red=pre war in reply to Adam Davis, 02-03-2005 09:56:08  
Red frame, red wheels, green boxes



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Tim(nj)

02-03-2005 19:16:20




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 There were two colors schemes in reply to James2, 02-03-2005 10:33:40  
James2, are you just trying to annoy me? Oliver changed the colors over the production run. We had a red one. Neighbors had a green one. Same drill. Neither was repainted. Maybe you"ve only seen a green one, but that doesn"t mean they were all green.



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James2

02-04-2005 09:37:50




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 Re: There were two colors schemes in reply to Tim(nj), 02-03-2005 19:16:20  
No, I was only attempting to confirm that red rims went with red frame (at least on our drill). I have no idea what the colors were on earlier Olivers. I'm sorry it appeared that I was the all knowing Oliver man.



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Tim(nj)

02-04-2005 15:24:38




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 I was only kidding . . . . in reply to James2, 02-04-2005 09:37:50  
James2, I was only kidding about being annoyed. Anyway, the steel box drills have now entered into this and that"s a whole "nother can of worms!



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James2

02-07-2005 10:07:13




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 Re: I was only kidding . . . . in reply to Tim(nj), 02-04-2005 15:24:38  
Yes, you did startle me, I thought my reply was relatively benign, but you never know... Surprising that drill is the only piece of Oliver equipment that I know for sure we ever owned. No close dealers. However, I have found one or two Oliver plow parts off a walking plow, so sometime back in the mid 1800 we probably owned a plow. Anyway no harm no foul, and you have exhausted my Oliver knowledge base!

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J. Schwiebert

02-04-2005 04:17:29




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 Re: There were two colors schemes in reply to Tim(nj), 02-03-2005 19:16:20  
Guys sown the road cleaned up a barn, Superior drill inside. Yellow box, Black letters on the box. Steel box. Different model same vintage as a 26.



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Tim(nj)

02-01-2005 18:24:15




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 Re: Color scheme of Superior Grain Drill in reply to Adam Davis, 02-01-2005 17:15:16  
What I meant was if you plant in the lowest gear setting without the reducers, you are going to get a population of about 300,000 per acre, too high. I think I used the 3rd gear setting on the disk with every other hole blocked and got 220,000 per acre in 14" rows. The drill we had was red with yellow lettering, steel wheels might have been green, wasn"t any paint left on them that I remember. Neighbors had one that was green with red lettering and red wheels on rubber. Drop tubes are hard to find. Ours had some 2-piece sheet metal telescoping tubes, and some long rubber tubes (still had the same sheet metal top piece) that came from a newer Oliver drill.

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Adam Davis

02-01-2005 19:58:22




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 Re: Color scheme of Superior Grain Drill in reply to Tim(nj), 02-01-2005 18:24:15  
Thanks Tim I appreciate the information. I understand now what you were talking about. I'd say this was a red and yellow model then. On the rims I don't know if the steel rims were green or not but the rubber tired rims have green on them. If I can find a picture of it I'll post it sometime.
Thanks again
Adam Davis



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Jake Ratsch

02-03-2005 06:43:22




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 Re: Color scheme of Superior Grain Drill in reply to Adam Davis, 02-01-2005 19:58:22  
I took a peek at my #26 that my grandpa bought new in the late 40's and the seeding and fertilizer charts are still in the seed boxes. For soy beans it says to use reducer plate #E-897 and use the #2 opening. The chart measures in quarts per setting.
1-25
2-31
3-37
4-43
5-49
6-55
7-61
8-67
9-73
10-80
11-86
12-92
13-98
Hope this helps, if you need any other settings, just ask! Jake

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rickm

02-04-2005 03:42:21




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 Re: Color scheme of Superior Grain Drill in reply to Jake Ratsch, 02-03-2005 06:43:22  
I was hoping someone could get to their drill. Mines kinda buried in off-season and would take a couple hours to dig out. I forgot about the plate. It's in the parts bin along with the little blocks I used to block off every other opening. My charts are kinda hard to read. I usually just put seed in and rotate the wheel and then weigh the seed off the tarp.



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