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is an IH 445 square baler any better than a 24t i

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red1905

01-17-2005 16:12:33




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I was gonna purches this Ih baler to compare to a john deer 24t. the ih baler does have the newer knoters and is in good shape with only the bell hook broke. i was told that it will make a lot better bale than that 24T?? My friend at the ih deler said that his nabor has one and it will make my 24t look like junk? is this true. and do you thaink $500 is a good price without a kicker? please le me know im looking at it better tomarow.

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T213R

01-18-2005 15:03:20




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 Re: is an IH 445 square baler any better than a 24 in reply to red1905, 01-17-2005 16:12:33  
There ARE no $500 balers that will make a well adjusted, functioning 24T look bad, and certainly not an IH 445! I would say that no IHC balers are worth owning. If you buy either JD or NH (take your pick) you won't go wrong, but honestly, the best use of ANY of the IHC line of small square balers is to immaculately paint them up and decal them and hitch them to an appropriate IH tractor at a show somewhere!

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james2

01-19-2005 05:54:40




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 Re: is an IH 445 square baler any better than a 24 in reply to T213R, 01-18-2005 15:03:20  
I agree! My friend paid $1000 for his IH435 which as I said would bury my 24T



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Baler Boy

01-18-2005 07:54:19




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 Re: is an IH 445 square baler any better than a 24 in reply to red1905, 01-17-2005 16:12:33  
I have no experience with an IH baler having spent all my time with JD 14-24T's or NH's.

My thought, for $500 you'll either luck out and get a machine that'll work well or it won't. Of course you could spend $500 on either a JD or NH machine and be in the same situation. If parts are available for that model (should they be needed)and your mechanically apt enough to work on it then its a good buy.

My opinion on capacity is how quick the guy behind the baler on the wagon can stack it, unless you intend to ground drop or kicker.

I'm personally staying with what I know to be a good working machine, my old NH super 67 makes decent bales and it's worn out junk!

Good Luck.

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JMS/MN

01-17-2005 22:28:53




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 Re: is an IH 445 square baler any better than a 24 in reply to red1905, 01-17-2005 16:12:33  
Any NH or JD is better than any IH baler they ever put out. IH had a history of poor tying knotters. A friend that works for an IH dealer is naturally going to support IH. I started farming 33 years ago with a 14T JD that missed 3 ties in 6000 bales- traded it two years later for a NH 268, to get a thrower. Equally good baler, still have it- would not take any IH for free! Wait for other responses about IH balers vs the two good ones- they will all tell you the same thing.

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Tim(nj)

01-18-2005 11:52:34




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 Re: is an IH 445 square baler any better than a 24 in reply to JMS/MN, 01-17-2005 22:28:53  
Some of the very late IH balers made by New Idea for IH had the same type of knotters NH and JD use. Neighbor has a 1978 440 with McCormick knotters that gives fits every so many loads, and a 1985 445 with Rasspe knotters that ties fine. But the consistency of bale length and density is not what you would get from a NH 326 or a JD 347, which were contemporaries of the 445. My neighbor found that going slow with two 7" swaths raked side-by-side (kept the pickup full all the way across) made the best bale with that 445, instead of one small windrow and higher ground speed. If you"re picking bales off the ground or using flat racks or bale baskets with the chute, it"s worth a $500 gamble. If you want to go with a NH bale wagon or an accumulator system, look at a different baler.

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Tim IN

01-17-2005 19:37:53




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 Re: is an IH 445 square baler any better than a 24 in reply to red1905, 01-17-2005 16:12:33  
If comparing apples to apples, the IH 445 is a is the better machine. I think $500 is a good price.



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Oliver farmer

01-17-2005 18:46:38




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 Re: is an IH 445 square baler any better than a 24 in reply to red1905, 01-17-2005 16:12:33  
A 24t has a pretty low capacity, but it is a good baler. It's also worth more than any International, and I think for good reason. John Deere and New Holland balers work well, are easy to work, and are easy to get parts/service for. I would never buy anything besides these two.



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James2

01-17-2005 17:51:31




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 Re: is an IH 445 square baler any better than a 24 in reply to red1905, 01-17-2005 16:12:33  
If a new bail hook is not more than $150, the baler has been shedded, and otherwise in good shape, I would run over and buy it! I have a 24T that is in very good shape, which I bought for $500. It is ok, but capacity in my opinion is average at best, although I have sharpened knives, shimmed the plunger, etc. On the other hand, I have watched a IH 435 which is smaller than the 445 and it would bury my 24T. A friend has been bugging me to by the 24T, and if I was in your situation, it would be gone.

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